Foxtails take a very long time to get over 20' and most max out at 25'. Spindle palms will get to 20' but it may take them 20 years.

Thanks Ricky. I still don't know what I want to do in that bed.

Katkin, my Foxtails are very tall considering they were only planted a little less than 4 years ago. My fence is 6 feet and the trees were shorter than the fence when planted.

Sharbear,
Foxtails look like they did ok down there in Pt St Lucie, but here in Polk, they froze. At least all the ones I've seen are all brown.
Yours are beautiful! You're lucky the cold didn't affect them.
Shirley

Florida thatch palm (thrinax radiata) is a native Florida palm that is slow-growing and doesn't grow taller than 20'. Mine were not affected by the recent freeze, while tropical palms (areca, royals, foxtails) suffered burning. Thatch palm is widely available on the Treasure Coast and catching on in other regions. HD orders them from their vendor in Homestead.

Is the Fl thatch palm self cleaning?

No. There are no self-cleaning fan palms.

Thanks Ricky. :o)

To those of you who grow Sabals and are ready to disagree with my comment about fan palms not being self-cleaning, yes, if you wait long enough, the fronds from any palm will eventually rot and fall. But a true self-cleaning palm is one with a crownshaft that's brought about by the newly dead fronds falling off quickly. I believe the standard is less than 14 days with 7 being the average.

I constantly see the Queen Palms in the county park across the street dropping dead fronds, but they may take six months or more to release. That's not a self-cleaning palm.

Hi Katkin,
I have had good success with Carpenteria palms.
T-

Kat,
This is not the best pix of my carpenterias, but hopefully you can see that it self cleans. The larger palm was grown from seed about 4-5 years ago. It is about 12-14' tall.

triangle palms.........have two in deland, nine years now. cover the trunk and crown here in a freeze. fronds froze this year but new growth is green and nice. slow grower, but really a good palm. in your zone it should do great!

Archontophoenix cunninghamiana is a very attractive self cleaning palm that I'm sorry to say, will not stand the winter temps in DeLand. Commonly known as Picabeen Palm or Bangalore Palm it is, as I've been told, the most cold hardy of the crownshaft palm. There are several nice ones about 15-20 feet at Leu Gardens in Orlando. I don't know their ultimate height. Sadly, I lost the last of mine in this last #%$@&ing freeze, but they were good to about 28*

john

Thanks all for your help, I've got a couple I think I could use.

The palms are going in the area between the sidewalk and the curb, and I want them easy care. :o)

king palm took a hit, wrapped the trunk and crown. notice bamboo palm to the left, perfect!

Trini,

Your Carpentarias are actually Veitchias. Both are good palms but get taller than 20 feet.

I think that Pseudophoenix sargentii is good for PSL and it is native and self pruning.

I think I may have lost my picabeen palm...time will tell. My triangle may/may not come through. I have 3 sylvesters and they are looking good. No freeze damage. Even the Europena fan palm got some damage but will be OK.

I just found a picabeen palm at walmart of all places! There is a tall one at FCCJ South campus here in Jacksonville that has survived many winters, probably because of its close proximity to a building. Here's a link to a picture of the one I just got for $12! I've also given it the most protected place possible and will wrap it in cold weather if i have to. They're that beautiful!

Here is a link that might be useful: A New Picabeen in my Courtyard

I dont know if someone already said this, but what about a king palm? They are exactly the same as royal palms but smaller. They look very nice.

Jollyjp, Katkin lives in my area, so I thought the foxtails would do ok for her too.