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20 years ago

I'm looking for a new rose and with limited garden space I'm throwing this question out to the rose grower's. I currently have a Hansa and a Quadra. I'm looking for a pale pink rose, I'm thinking of Morden's blush, Martin Frobisher or a Lambert Closse. Sadly I only have room for one, has anyone had more success with one or the other of these roses?

AND - is it too late in the season to plant a rose now? I am willing to wait until spring but ... Hole's has their hardy roses 25 to 50% off right now. Thanks.

Comments (17)

  • 20 years ago

    For a small space Morden Blush can't be beat. If it only had some scent it would be a great rose.
    Leo

  • 20 years ago

    From what I've seen Morden Blush seems to have more flowers than Lambert Closse. But like Leo said, MB has no scent, where Lambert Closse does. They're both beautiful roses and if not having a scent doesn't bother you, my preference would be for MB due to it's flower shape and high bud count.
    Sorry, I don't have Martin Frobisher, so I don't know much about him. :^)

  • 20 years ago

    Hi. I have had Lambert Closse in my garden for 3 years now. This rose doesn't get very tall, mine is only '2. It does not flower very profusely, but all that said, the blossoms are gorgeous. I find the scent very subtle. It has never yet had any disease problems, however the leaf cutter bees and sawflies do like it. Another nice rose I have is Cuthbert Grant. Again the scent is subtle, flowers profusely. Marg

  • 20 years ago

    Hi there,

    first post here!!

    Anyhoo, I have a Lambert Closse. I planted it last year. Unknown to me when I bought it, it's actually a Zone 4 rose. I noticed when spring came round this year that it died back right to the ground, but it grew back and bloomed quite nicely. It should do fine for you. I enjoy its tea-like blooms and nice light scent. No powdery mildew, no aphids, just some small holes in the leaves from the bees.

  • 20 years ago

    I've had Martin Frobisher for three or four years now. He's grown quite tall but not very wide. He's a reliable all-summer bloomer with beautiful buds, but i've heard his flowers described as having a "wet-kleenex" look, and it's true. And he's had the worst sawfly damage of all my roses, for some reason.

    Sounds like Lambert Closse is the way to go, from the above posts. :)

  • 20 years ago

    If I were to only pick one rose, I would choose Martin Frobisher, mine has been blooming repeatedly since early summer. The soft pink double blooms have a sweet fragrant and best of all it is definitely hardy with little winterkill, grows aprox 5-6 feet tall. To avoid wet-kleenex, deadhead regulary to keep it tidy.

    Yes, potted roses can be planted in late summer/early fall, however, make sure you water regularly till freeze up and mulch it good for its first winter.

    Sharon

  • 20 years ago

    Thank you for all of the help/suggestions. I think I will have to go with the Martin Frobisher b/c of the height, I have tallish perennials growing to the right and left of the spot I've chosen.

    I didn't research the roses as well as I could've I was so taken with the beautiful flowers. It sounds as if the Lambert Closse and Morden Blush just wouldn't be seen as well there.

  • 20 years ago

    I'm going to give you another suggestion for a taller pink rose-Prairie Joy. This rose is a perfectly formed bush. My 2 haven't quit blooming since this spring. Mine are over 5 ft tall.
    Shelley

  • 20 years ago

    Shelley, i've been eyeing that one up for a couple of years now and it's defintely on my wants list!

  • 20 years ago

    Shelly - how does Prairie Joy compare with De Montarville and Lambert Closse and Morden Blush for blooms and form if height isn't the issue?

    Fern

  • 20 years ago

    Prairie Joy is my nicest formed full bush in my yard. The blooms are fuller than De Montarville, but not as full as Lambert Closse and Morden Blush. The flowers always stay cupped and never totally blow open. A trait which I really like. It had lots of flowers early and late July and has contiued to bloom since. My PJ bushes have shown no signs of disease at all this year either. I can say that about very few of my roses this year. A definate keeper.
    Shelley

  • 20 years ago

    AHHHH - and here I thought I narrowed the roses down before asking my question. Well this is why I'm here, to listen to more experienced gardener's. Shelley I'm headed out today - my decision will have to come down to how each rose looks.

    I read up on the Prairie Joy and one thing that caught my eye (besides covering my colour/height issue) ... it is not just disease resistant, it is 'very disease resistant'. Very comforting to someone planting their 3rd rose ever ;o)

    - Something I've wondered, before planting I put in Myke's along with some compost and peat. Do I put bonemeal in too? I didn't know if that was overkill and would hurt the rose, so I haven't. (This is pure laziness on my part I COULD research this online ... but it would take me much longer than posting it here I'm sure!) Thanks.

  • 20 years ago

    I haven't used Mykes. I use the peat, compost and bonemeal. Mykes is supposed to be a great product though. Bonemeal is for rooting and isn't very strong, so why not add it.

  • 20 years ago

    I tried Myke's last year on a Lilac shrub I planted. I don't think it made a shred of difference.

    I too use peat, compost and bonemeal usually. I also add a bit of sand and blown mulch these days.

  • 20 years ago

    Thanks for the help, I'll use both. I don't know much about Myke's either shazam except my garden centre will guarantee a rose for 5 years if you buy it. Roses are a new direction for me so I like the safety net.

  • 20 years ago

    Ohhh...
    Know I know too...gee you guys are helpful I was wondering the same thing about roses...

    So what are the dimensions Praire joy gets?

  • 20 years ago

    My Prairie Joy are about 5' tall by 3' wide.

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    Shelley

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