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Source for Native Pawpaws

16 years ago

After searching for a source for Bigleaf Pawpaws (asimina obovata) for years and only finding northern pawpaws [asimina triloba), I finally came across a vendor at the Marion County Master Gardener's Festival who specializes in these hard to find plants. She is both knowledgeable and helpful in making sure you know how to plant these notoriously hard to transplant shrubs. She also made sure I took one of her cards so I could call her if I had any questions after I got home. She is located in Lessburg and if anyone would like her contact information let me know and I will pass it along!

nova

Comments (35)

  • 16 years ago

    I definitely would. I know how important it is to getthe right type. I know some types grow well down to about Polk County where I am and others are only in th panhandle area. I have a source to get them from but still in doubts about how it will do here. Please pass on the info either to my gmail (go through my page or for all to see.)

  • 16 years ago

    mboston - Sent you an e mail!

  • 16 years ago

    I have killed sooo many pawpaws I may be banned from trying again.
    Let me know if you are successful getting yours to grow. I'd love to entice the butterflies that love the pawpaws.

  • 16 years ago

    Got it! Thanks!

  • 16 years ago

    I wish I had a place for one in my yard, but I've heard that they hate to have their feet wet. Is that right? My yard tends towards the swampy with very bad drainage.

    Kate

  • 16 years ago

    My place is abutting the Ocala forest, where that paw-paw supposedly is occasionally found. It's high on my list of species I'd like to establish, so yes I would definitely like to have her contact info.

    Thanks

  • 16 years ago

    Nova, I saw those at the festival but didn't buy any. A little out of my price range right now and I don't currently have a place for it. But the plants did look nice and healthy. You'll have to let us know how it does.

    Kara

  • 16 years ago

    nova, please email that to me if you don't mind.

    solstice, I have asinima reticulata growing native on my wet property if you want one that might work. It doesn't grow big though, but I've heard the fruit are somewhat tasty.

    Gary

  • 16 years ago

    I will definitely keep everyone updated on how it goes with the pawpaw!

    Kate- From what I have seen with the pawpaws growing around here they like sandy or well-drained locations.

    All those who asked for the info - You Have Mail!

    nova

  • 16 years ago

    this is 2nd year of trying to get seeds started with no luck, would mind sharing pawpaw information with me also.

    Carol

  • 16 years ago

    Carol-Sent you an e mail!

  • 16 years ago

    I am interested in attracting the zebra swallotail so I am interested in this tree. Would you mind sharing the info with me as well?

    Thanks in advance!

  • 16 years ago

    fagopher- Sent you an e mail!

  • 16 years ago

    New to the forums here. Would it be possible to send me the Pawpaw information also?
    Thanks in advance

  • 16 years ago

    mysticvisions-I would be happy to send you the pawpaw info but you need to enable your e mail on your member page. Or drop me an e mail and I will pass it along to you.

    nova

  • 16 years ago

    I would love to get the growers info please!. I am doing the entire property 100% native and have been searching for these plants since they are endemic and endangered! Plus the ones growning in the nieghborhood woods are amazing looking! thanks in advance!

  • 16 years ago

    Jim Thomas from Biosphere said at Trout Lake that they are very difficult to propagate and he knows just one lady who grows them successfully - so far. He is trying, too.

    If I remember correctly, they need to be in symbiosis with a fungus or similar thing.

  • 16 years ago

    Look what I found when I Googled Florida Pawpaw, a GW reference :-) With a name like that I'd hope that somebody in that group has experience here with Pawpaws.

  • 16 years ago

    The pawpaws I bought have been in the ground for a little more than 2 weeks now and are looking great. Putting on new leaves and have grown about an inch. I am getting VERY hopeful!

    jojofshby - Sent you an e mail.

    nova

  • 16 years ago

    new to the forum i went last week to a nursery that only had two very small a obovata and they told me if i wanted more plants i should find out who the women is in leesberg but they could not remember the nursrery info i would like the contact info i did send an e-mail but figured i would post here to just in case that did not come thru ty. i do grow other things related to the asiminas want to see if they are graft compatable would be nice if they are graft compatable with some of the annonas i grow would not help northern florida growers out much not sure any of them would survive the winter mor enorth of here but for my area and south it might help. some of the other annonas are a little easier to grow. but the nursery i was at said the same thing that the women in leesburg knows everything about asimina

  • 16 years ago

    wonder why my e-mail shows up in the above thread

  • 16 years ago

    I went to the Gainesville Native Plant Society's sale last week and bought an asimina triloba, which I gather from reading this thread may have been the wrong thing to do. The gentleman selling it to me said that we were at the very southern end of its range, so it was a coin flip as to whether it would survive, but he apparently didn't know about a more southern variety.

    I'm pessimistic, because I seem to have a very warm microclimate, based on some plants that survived last winter that really shouldn't have. But we shall see.

  • 16 years ago

    I have had some success at growing Paw Paws from seed, but no success at attracting the Zebra Longwings that I covet. I see both the Paw Paws and the butterflys at a park about five miles away. It's very frustrating.

    It's almost impossible to transplant Paw Paws because they have very long tap roots. I grow mine in long pots that were used to grow orange trees in.

    I'm hoping that the new plants will attract the butterflies. Nova if you would send me the email information I would like to speak with this lady and perhaps purchase some plants.

    Tom

  • 16 years ago

    Zebra Swallowtail is the one that feeds on pawpaw the longwings feed on passion flowers heres a link to a page that shows the plants the adults feed on. that may help you to attract the adults to you're yard get the adults there they should start laying eggs on you're pawpaws once they get a pattern

    Here is a link that might be useful: zebra swallowtail adult foods

  • 16 years ago

    Mikey and Tom- I have sent you both e mails with the contact info!

    nova

  • 16 years ago

    ty very much

  • 16 years ago

    I am stumped. What exactly is a Pawpaw tree? I don't believe I have ever seen one, or didn't know what it was when I did.

  • 16 years ago

    i picked up three asimina obovata and one pygmea nice plants now its up to me to not kill them

  • 16 years ago

    the pawpaws we are talking about here are the north american asimina species in some countries they call the papaya pawpaw. there are several that are native to florida. the most common one in america is the asimina triloba pawpaw. the trilobas range is not that far down in florida the a triloba is also called michigan banana, poor mans banana and several others

  • 16 years ago

    Congrats on the pawpaws Mikey! Did you get them from Terri? The two I got are still going strong and I am no longer worrying about them expiring on me. They have put on more growth and even bloomed this year so I am very happy with them and may pick up a couple of others if I can figure out where to put them!

    nova

  • 16 years ago

    yup got them from terri she was at a show in eustis fl so ran up there its 2 1/2 hours away but been wanting healthy strong plants and she deffinately knows what she is doing got the pygmaea planted and one of the obovatas the obovata i planted has one small fruit on it not sure if it will hold with just being planted but fingers crossed.ty for the info to find her

  • 16 years ago

    citrus pots are what she grows her pawpaws in. the northern pawpaws should grow about the same the thing is you cannot save the pot you have to cut the pot bottom off than cut up both sides withought letting it fall apart backfill than pull each side off seperately wile holding the top of the soil. the first time i got some a obovata i pulled them out of the pot than planted them and that killed them. you cannot try to save the pot.one of the A. obovata has a fruit on it and it is still holding it. thats the one i planted and also planted the pygmeae

  • 15 years ago

    I just got an A. obovata from Terri. In my conversation with her I thought I understood that planting in the shade may work better but the handout she gave me makes me wonder if I understood correctly.
    I am wondering if people here who were successful with them planted them in sun or shade? I have the option to do either on my property.

  • 15 years ago

    When they are young they seem to grow best in shade, but they are normally full-sun plants. The Obovatas are full-sun, I believe.

    One thing to understand if you just purchased a plant is that they grow slowly. They concentrate on sending down roots the first few years and then they grow better. If you don't have Zebra Swallowtails nearby it may not make sense to plant Pawpaws. One or two plants are not likely to bring them in from a distance.

    What I have found to be successful with them is to use half-inch PVC pipe put right next to them. I put the PVC pipe at the same level as the bottom of the root when I plant them. When it rains or when the irrigation hits the pipe the water will get down to the roots. Young plants may he helped by staking also.

    Let's keep reporting our success or lack thereof here. I have lots of Pawpaws, but no Zebra swallowtails. I'm not giving up though. They are such beautiful butterflies.

    I saw and talked with Terri at the Leu Gardens plant festival and saw her again at the Winter Garden festival. She is very friendly and willing to spend some time talking with anyone about Pawpaws.

  • 15 years ago

    We probably have at least a thousand of them on our property if not more, however, I have never once been able to dig one up and have it survive. Their roots are deep. I guess they know better where they want to be, which is mainly at the edges of the woods.

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