Hello,

I've been searching for some plants to start my permaculture garden, and I've hit a bit of a wall on this family, since it appears that the truly desirable varieties (ehwiger kohl, chou Daubenton) don't typically set seed, therefore must be propagated with clippings. Unfortunately, the primary area of cultivation seems to be north-western Europe (Northern France and the Low Countries). Does anyone have any leads? From what I gather, the varieties I seek are ramosa and acephala.