ok! i finally bought some hoyas off of ebay. i ended up buying two of the same plants b/c there were 2 different pics for the same plant. lol. they are two very nice rooted cuttings of pub. 'pink silver' and i have cuttings off of two new hoyas i bought at lowe's. of course they are named wrong (EA)one is labeled 'sulawasi' the other is named hoya 'stripes'. it has smaller leaves. i can send pics. does anyone want to do a trade? i have one other that i could send cuttings of too - it looks like rubra (hasn't bloomed yet) anyway, i'd love to do a trade. =) let me know if anyone is interested!