This is for Rita, I tried to reply again and it wouldn't let me --said I had to change the subject. == Guess I was on a roll. I went back and reread your orginal post about the leave mulch and you did say that after the bed was ready you put the leaves on it, So dummy me, of course you would get the ground ready I have this gardening show stuck in my brain I think it was martha stewart, but she put leaves into dark bags and then left them on the ground over winter where she was planning on starting a new flower bed. Then in late spring the bags were filled with good mulch/compost and the grass underneath was dead. I just need to pay closer attention when I'm reading. Now, I'll go and get the bed ready before I put the leaves on it. I really like your way. Better than Martha's

Cindy