Hi Billie Rae,

First one is plain carnosa, not 'K8'. Here's 'K8'...

And yes, I think that is arnottiana in the 2nd photo. Mine has taken off like a rocket this year. I love the leaves - some get so big, and they become so nice and succulent. I think mine is going to have to move up to a bigger pot before much longer. Hope it will bloom soon - good to hear the flowers are nicely scented.

Denise in Omaha

Hi Billy..Billy, did I send you the top cutting? lol. I really can't recall. I thought I sent you Krinkle and another hoya 6? 7? (the one w/spots) yrs ago. Do you remember?

I have a similar hoya as the one in your second pic..not sure where I bought it, but it might have the tag/label. I think they're one and the same, not sure..dont know enough about hoyas to comment. The name arnottiana doesn't ring a bell though. I'll see if it has a tag when I go outside.
Are you looking for Krinkle? Toni

Thanks you Denise for the ids on both hoyas:O)

Ahh,your photo says it all!

I thought it looked dimple-less:O)It does look similar to the old fashion spotted hoya I have, but the leaves (in pic) aren't as dark green as my other carnosa, maybe another type of carnosa then.
I guarantee that you'll love the fragrance of arnottiana when yours flowers! If they had the scent as a soap, or a body spray, I'd definitely buy it!

Hi Toni,
Fancy meeting you here, lol. Yes, you had sent me two ot three cuttings of the first hoya above last year, only one lived for some reason and they were all in the same pot.
You had mentioned it was a krinkle curl, but it didn't have any krinkles/dimples, lol.I wasn't sure if maybe they came later as the plant matured or what???
You had sent me a small cutting of krinkle a few years back which I believe was in the package that took 9 days to arrive (stupid post office) They probably shipped it somewhere else first!
I wasn't looking for krinkles, maybe someday I'll get one though.

Billy Rae

Billy, so you're not looking for a Krinkle? Here's a pic of the hoya I call Krinkle. Maybe it's not???

Is that not a Krinkle? The krinles are hard to see on the pic, but it has indentations like h. krinkle?

LOL, you know me, I'm everywhere..lol..
9 days? That is a long time..sheesh.

I'm thinking about getting H. multiflora 'white margin.'. It's sooo pretty. Ever see one?
Do you root hoyas in soil or water?

H.A. - it looks like 'Krinkle 8' to me. Nice big one, too. I just repotted mine today into a big, heavy pot as it's such a heavy plant. Has yours bloomed? I love the carnosa-like flowers. Pretty and long-lasting.

Denise in Omaha

Yep, I agree, the hoya you posted looks like a krinkle. Nice plant you have there Toni!

Maybe you have, or had a carnosa somewhere in your house with silver spots and no krinkles that you took cutting from last year and sent me?

The carnosa didn't do much at first, but this year it seems to be growing fast like a weed, although it could probably stand to use a little more direct sunshine then it's been getting.

I have seen the variegated version of the multiflora, but only the one time a few years ago. Beautiful plant. Hope you get a nice healthy one!

Billy Rae

Denise, thanks..That's the hoya I mentioned that used to bloom, (several times a year) until I started taking cuttings..it's been, at least 5 yrs since it's bloomed..
During winter, it's in the same west/some south sun + artificial light at night. Believe me, it no longer looks anything like the picture..I must have given away 25 cuttings since I got it in 1994/5, especially since the net.

Thanks Billy. I could have sworn I sent you cuttings from 3 hoyas..the Krinkle, Silver Splash or Silver Pink, (don't know which it is) and one called a Large Leaf Hoya. This would be some time ago..BTW, did the multiflora root?
I never cut Carnosas so I doubt it. Might have been something else..Toni

Toni,

You did send be some krinkle cuttings years ago, but that's the package that came 9 days after you sent it, so everything was pretty weak by then so the cuttings didn't make it except one into soil but it never rooted.

The spotted one above was also from you, now, it was a while ago too, but a lot of time went by after the krinkles were sent, but I know it came from you because I do very limited if at all trades because I was ripped off "twice" and that all but killed the mood to trade, unless maybe I know the person is a reg on these forums and is considered honest.
Anyhow, yes, the multiflora rooted, now I just have to wait a while for the rockets!

Are the two cuttings I sent doing ok?

Billy Rae

Billy..I learned my lesson sending 'freebies' to non-regulars too. One cost me a plant plus nine and change shipping..the person offered to send petunia cuttings! In fall to boot..you'd think I'd have learned, but nope, someone on the 'other forum' said she was handicapped, couldn't get out to buy plants..I sent over 15 cuttings, and a little soil. How stupid is that? She never even wrote to say thanks..The last time was a man asking for, of all plants, Mother of Thousands. We agreed if shipping was over 2.00 he'd pay..well, shipping was 7 and change..not a penny was sent..he did thank me..
From now on cuttings will go to friends, family and regulars here.

Billy, I believe everything you sent is doing fine. Even the old Algao is over 2' tall, and blooms yearly. The two sux you sent last, (which I told you you didn't have to give anything in return) :) are fine..they're outside, soaking, well whatever sun we get. I think my lights produce more light than outside plants are getting. What a summer! What a joke!
The COT's is packed with leaves. The mona (succulent) great and has leaves. I can't recall if there were others, those are what come to mind.

Yes, the rockets, beautiful, fragrant flowers for sure. LMK if you want some Krinkle..it no longer matters since it hasn't bloomed. If I could root hoyas I'd cut up the entire plant and start over. lol.

Toni,

Some people have a lot nerve don't they, especially after the person agreed to send more money!
The first time I was ripped off was by a seller on ebay, (no longer a seller:O) I got that, shhhh, sob back good, lol.
I only wish the second "Rat" lived closer, I would have been at his door! Yeah, only trade with friends, family and reg, that way you won't end up with nothing and kicking yourself later!

I'm glad the plants are doing well for you..
This summer is a joke, it's like the beginning of spring weather! soooo cloudy and rainy. I swear we are living in London!

Toni, I would love some krinkle if you don;t mind cutting into it again. That's a pretty cool looking carnosa, love those dimples! I can trade you some Monstera adansonii cuttings, that is, if you don't already have it, because you and I know how you are, lol.

Billy Rae