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Shaina or Geisha

20 years ago

Hi,

I have the option of either buying a 5 gallon Shaina (5-6 years old) or a 1 gallon Acer palmatum 'Geisha'(2 years old), both are listed at the same price $60 each.

I am unable to decide which is a good buy and I can buy only one of them.

Which would you go with? and why?

thanks,

xman

Comments (14)

  • 20 years ago

    60$ for a 1 gal Geisha is NOT a good deal... 60$ for a 5 gal shania is a VERY good deal ( i'd ask for a jpeg before buying of the specific plant though)... giesha is, I believe, a relativly new cultivar whereas shania is an older proven variety ..I don't see why you have a question here even if your having it shipped it's a no brainer IMHO ..David

  • 20 years ago

    I might also add according to Vertrees ...Geisha is a bit tender being a veragated sort and in zone 7-8 would require alot of sun and heat protection ..I don't think you'd have that same problem or at least as much with shania... David

  • 20 years ago

    Thanks David. The reason I was considering the Geisha was that I already have a 1 gallon Shaina(a 1-2 year graft), but a 5 gallon Shaina(5-6 year old) at that price did seem like a good deal to pass up. The only thing that I am debating is whether the deal is good enough to get a second tree of the same cultivar. What do you think?

    thanks,
    xman

  • 20 years ago

    YES... MOM would love your one to two year old one don't ya think!!!! or anyone you owe a big favor to..but the 60$ price on the geisha is just to much either way IMHO...and the gallon thing really doesn't mean much many put there grafts in gallons to start off with at grafting!! others in the fall after the late winter of grafting ... so the one gal plant may be less than a year old ..additionally there are true gals and "trade" gals... trade gals are closer to three quarts than four..they are cheaper to buy ( the pots) and most JM'S adv. as "gals" are in fact TRADE gals in my experience.
    If you want a true spec on the tree demand a picture ..ask for a caliper of trunk measurment and heigt of tree from soil level to top as well as the width of the canapee and fullness of said tree ..if they are unwilling to do at least SOME of the above look elsewhere unless your jonesing is too much and you throw caution to the wind and HAVE to have it or you totally trust them ( YA RIGHT)..then go for it .. David

  • 20 years ago

    Ok. I ended up getting the Shaina, the nursery was having a 25% off sale on the Japanese Maples on friday, so I figured if $60 was a good deal on a 5 gallon Shaina, $45 was better.
    Is there a JM Anonymous somewhere? :)

    xman

  • 20 years ago

    GOOD choice GREAT price...and if there were a JMA many of us would be charter members in it's 12 step program instead of the reality of being in the 12+ purchase program ;>) David

  • 20 years ago

    Hey you guys!! Della here! If you guys start a JMA program, I will go out of business so just keep the addiction going!! LOL

  • 20 years ago

    Hi Della, Ivy here. As you know, I am hopelessly hooked so you don't have to worry about me...until the next tree. LOL.

    Here is a link that might be useful: App-A-Lot Ranch

  • 20 years ago

    Della,
    I don't think you have any worries-the trees I got from you this spring look fantastic.

  • 20 years ago

    I came to this late, but wanted to put in my bid for the Geisha. I have a lovely, 3' tree that puts out the most beautiful, shrimp pink, weeping leaves. The older ones turn to a light green and it's gorgeous.

    I live in an "atmospheric trough," which is another story. Suffice it to say that here in S. Maryland, where my next door neighbors will receive thunderstorms, I get nothing but the run-off going down the road. We can literally drive OUT of rain only my land. I have weeks of dryness vs. a week or so.

    My point is that this little Geisha receives full sun from probably 1:00 until sunset. We're talking no shade, full, unmitigated million degree sun. It's happy and healthy.

    So next time, give 'er a shot.

    Christine
    Who now owns over 130 JMs and is feeling somewhat overwhelmed.

  • 19 years ago

    Christine,

    I am looking to buy geisha, but am not able to find a source that has some nice stock. I really like the way your geisha has held up to the sun, and would like to get one from the same stock. Would you mind revealing the source of your geisha?

    thanks,
    xman

  • 19 years ago

    I picked up my Geisha in the fall of 2004. I got it at Homestead Gardens, but this year saw they really only had (now-boring) standards any collector already has.

    I think this is one of the prettiest little trees I have (of 135 or so) and am looking forward to it's burst of color this year. I also like the fact it really is a dwarf, so I can place it without it later messing my plan up -- as Nature is wont to do. :)

    Would you like me to let you know if I see this this year? And, of course, you can always call them. They're expensive, but extensive. They can get most anything you want, too.

    C.

  • 19 years ago

    Hi Christine,

    My Geisha is still tiny...., when you say it is dwarf, what is your guess for height after 10 years?

    Gomero

    P.s.: thanks for the information about sun tolerance

  • 19 years ago

    Christine,

    Thanks for the reply. Please let me know if you see it with them, but do not go out of your way to do it, only if you are visiting them and happen to see it. I will see what they have on their website.

    thanks,
    xman

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