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Frozen palms

17 years ago

Took some photos of my palms and other plants after a low of 8 degrees yesterday. Photos are in my Flickr album (see link) but here are some of the more dramatic ones.

Frozen palms; note the folded leaflets on the T. "takil" on the right:

Closeup of a T. wagnerianus leaf showing the characteristic folded leaflets after a hard freeze:

And the infamous "fatsia flop" (they will recover from this!)

For comparison, here's now the fatsias looked a few weeks ago, in mid-December:

Here is a link that might be useful: Frozen palm pics

Comments (12)

  • 17 years ago

    They still all look great johnnie !

  • 17 years ago

    Your palms look to be hardened off and responding to cold just fine,very good color,usually trachys get a little yellow in the cold,looks like yours have very established root sytems to handle cold that well!You gotta love waggies man!In my opinion waggies are the toughest trachys.

  • 17 years ago

    The waggies have been in the ground for about 6 years, having been planted out as very small seedlings. They have never been transplanted so they have had plenty of time to develop good root systems. That can only work in their favor.

    Temperatures went above freezing today so I went out and took a look. The "takil" and waggies look pretty good; the leaflets are still folded but they don't look otherwise fried. My T. fortunei "Taylor", on the other hand, looks pretty beat up. This plant was the least hardy of all my palms and it was already weakened by previous defoliation & transplantation so I think it may finally bite the dust.

    Bottom line is that much of the damage does not show up immediately and I won't know the full extent of the damage for several weeks. With any luck we won't have anything nearly as cold again this winter.

  • 17 years ago

    To bad about the taylor/fort hopefully it will pull through.
    I have a feeling we will see another arctic blast in Feb,hopefully there won't be a carpet of snow underneath it.
    Our cold started 3 weeks earlier than last year,(where I live)so I am hoping that we will start to warm up earlier this year,no to much longer to go now.

  • 17 years ago

    You have fine palms, Johnieb,
    I remember your earlier photos, palms grew stronger.
    They look freezed like my Rhododendrons outside. :)
    Pity but without serious protection it's impossible to grow palms outdoors here. Wish you earlier and warmer spring!
    Antti

  • 17 years ago

    Those waggies are going to recover like they do every year, I wouldn't worry about the minor damage. A 6 year root system is a huge advantage and they will get better as the years go by.

  • 17 years ago

    Nice pics,thanks for the link.Is your Tetra Panax a smaller leaved variety?I'm just curious because I know some do get HUGE leaves,I have one I'm growing indoors now and am looking forward to planting in the spring.Cool kitty cat!

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks everybody, I do expect to see at least some damage, as I have had from previous single digit temperatures. But right now it's simply still far too early to tell; damage from a hard freeze takes several weeks to show its full extent.

    Jim, my Tetrapanax is just the ordinary kind that has been around for years. There is a new selection called 'Steroidal Giant' that lives up to its name; it is much bigger in all proportions. I've seen a plant at a friend's house and it was truly impressive:

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks jb,nice pictiure.I have a Tetrapanax(steroidal giant)that I got from Brians botanicals on E-bay,I am looking forward to planting it this spring,it has done very well inside this winter.I am thinking of a spot with a half day of sun,mid day to sunset,what do you think?are is a full sun area better?
    I also have some Gunnera tinctoria seeds,know anyone thats growing these?
    Tetrapanex looks like a castor bean plant on(of all things)steroids!Can't wait to plant this,castors,bananas and tetra are the big fireworks and a lot of fun to watch during the growing season.
    I don't think your waggies are going to be damaged at all from what I can see of them,they look pretty tough,I hope the three I have planted look that good in a few more years!Cheers-

  • 17 years ago

    Yes, it does look a lot like castor bean (Ricinus) but has the advantage of being much hardier. This species grows into a small tree in its native habitat (as does castor bean) but acts as a die-back perennial in colder zones (which castor bean does not!). 'Steroidal Giant' seems to be a lot hardier than ordinary Tetrapanax. My friend's SG kept about 10 feet of trunk and ended up looking almost like a palm tree the next year; although it was a relatively mild winter my own regular Tetrapanax were killed to the ground as they always are, although they always re-sprout from the roots. Here are his plants again, photographed in May of last year after having survived the winter; the leaves are not fully expanded in these photos, but he said they got nearly as big as in the previous year:

  • 17 years ago

    Very cool jb! and thanks for the pics.I don't think sg would come back here but I do think it will return from the roots if mulched well,what do you think, full sun or partial shade?

  • 17 years ago

    i have a robellini palm that just went through a hard freeze, had it covered,but when i took cover off all fronds are a brownish/green. should i cut it back or leave them alone

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