They may be the toughest all around Trachy.
I think Princeps grows faster in heat but Waggies are almost certainly more cold hardy.
As far as the leaves burning,as long as they are acclimated to their new spot it won't be a problem.
The sooner you plant it the better as far as establishment goes.
One thing about a smaller plant is that it will be easy to cover should you ever need to.

Best Trachy for windy sights and one of my favorites!-you can never have to many Waggies!

I would wait until it is a nice, healthy 5-gal sized plant before you plant it out permanently.

If you put together a good, aerated potting mix, you should be able to develop a strong root system more quickly with a young plant than planting it out in the ground.

You can also submerge the plant+pot into the ground for the winter if you want to test out cold hardiness, and easily pull out the pot in case it gets colder than expected.

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Jim I think I've seen you post pics.of yours on here before.I think your thinking is correct,I can just put a garbage can over it during the coldest nights of winter.Will I need to cover it during heavy or excessive rain in winter?I bought mine on ebay,its a one gallon,I paid $12 for it.Is that a good deal,or do you know where to get them at better prices?What gets you on ebay you have to pay shipping,it was $10.You pay double for the plant by that time.Home Depot and lowes only sell fortunei's,I wished they would start selling more varietys of Trachycarpus palms.Jim did you amind the soil when you planted yours,and if you did what did you use?Thanks for the info.

Hello butiaman good luck with your waggy. They like lots of rain and very wet soil. I agree with you jim you can never have to many waggies!

Yea,like Mike said they will do well in wet/moist soil,esp in your part of the country in the heat of summer.
I would definitely keep it on the dry side in winter,shield it from rain and frost during/before freezing temps.

Even if it is not that cold,it's the repeated cold/wet thawing and unthawing that damages the spear.

Post a pic of it when it comes,they are usually pricey as they are not as common as Fortunei.
The price you payed sounds reasonable.

Mbpalms?

The ones Collector palms are selling are super nice too,great seller!

Im sorry it's MB-Palms23,they also have Trachycarpus Martianus.I have a good spot picked out for the Wagnerianus,it stays moist most of the time.Have any of you bought or growing Martianus?

I have a Martianus and a couple Latisectus.
Martianus is more graceful and tropical looking then the other Trachys but not very cold hardy,20f will put it into difficulty.
Neither is very fast growing either,although I imagine they pick up some speed as they get older.

Waggies as well as other Trachys should be kept drier once the weather cools in fall and be kept dry during winter, the soil should drain well.
They mostly will need wetter soil during summers heat,90+

Thanks for the info.so on the Wagnerianus water well just in summer?Are they heavy feeders?Do they like alot of fertilizer?

Yes and yes

I thought all the Trachycarpus palms were very cold hardy.I noticed the Trachycarpus Martianus looks more tropical looking than the other Trachy's.So it's only cold hardy to the 20's.If so I might not try it.What about princeps.How cold hardy are them?

Hi ButiaGA,

With this warm spell and no real cold out there I might chance just planting it based on your location and zone. Cover if it drops past 32.

Trackys can take temps down to around 5*F or lower if you keep them DRY(in the winter) and protected from the Winter WIND. If you leave them to chance they are not likely damaged in 7b but i would plant on the warm south-side of a house or structure if I wasn't planning to cover her.

Greg we are under another flood watch once again,im so tired of rain rain rain!!!The only thing I wonder about is how am I going to cover 20 or more palms once they get big.I dont have them all planted yet,but once I do then what.My goal is to have palms all over my yard,thats why Im trying to find ones that I wont have to worry about covering or giving them protection when we have cold spells or even something as simple as rain.I realize I might have to do some of that on young palms,or the first three years.I dont want to have to do that the rest of my life,especially on 20 plus palms.Thanks for the info about keeping them dry.I remember when I frist started writting on this forum you wanted to see a picture of my 10yr old Pindo.I dont have a current picture yet but I have a picture posted on another topic on this forum.It's on the one that says Pindo Palm spear pull?Thanks again everyone :)

The strong will survive.

Princeps has survived 12f and multiple freezing nights according to growers in Alabama and Arkansas.

They are the most beautiful of the Trachys and well worth the price!

Heres a pic of my 3 sons from Sept-2008

I think they are the most beauiful Trachy's also.Them or martianus.Great looking palms,they look very healthy.I read somewhere that in the future it will be harder to get real princeps seeds.Great picture!!

They(Princeps) used to be one of the hardest to get.....

Until it was realized that all the palms sold as Takil are actually Naini Tal or plain Fortunei.

A true Takil is the hardest palm to get right now(as far as Trachys go),unless someone raised it from seed,which has only become available in the past 2 years or so.

All these 3-5g Trachys sold as Takil are not.
Most people including growers are not up to date on this or don't care enough to be.

I read something about what your saying about the Takil.Do they look just alike when they are seedlings?They dont look to me nothing alike when grown.I found a site that tells all about Trachycarpus palms.It tells about how what people have been buying for years as Takil,now they found out there Fortunei's.They paid more money for there palms because they thought they were getting a more rare palm.It's a shame that if these nurserys are going to specialize in certain palm species,they need to know what there selling.More study needs to be done,because us as consumers are the one's who pay for there mistakes.

Thanks Butiaman,

THanks for directing me to the photo to see your Pindo palm. Covering 20 palms would be a bit much. I bet the trackys are a good bet for you to try in that case.

There are so many variations of Trachys it drives people to fits,even palms that are clearly Fortunei can have 360*leaf segments(a variation in Fortunei)and then theres T.tesan which is another form of Fortunei that grows much more compact,at least at a young age,just to name a couple!
I really love the variability,it's like having your own custom palm in some cases.

BTW/although not Takil,Naini Tal is a really great palm!,grows faster than Takil,Fortunei(generally)and has a nice compact crown.

The seller on E-bay that has small Princeps for sale usually offers the same size plant as his more expensive ones for 25ish,they are small and not cheap.
I think this one would do well in your hot/long summers but you would probably need to keep it in a pot until it gets some size-

Here is a link that might be useful: Princeps

Jim, how are you takils doing? Mine seem to be a little slower than fortunei. Maybe by the end of this year i might have a split leaf?

Jim you seem to know alot about Tarchycarpus palms,and I have seen the Princeps on ebay.I was wandering why that listing is $25 when the same palm from the same seller also list for $30 dollars.I wanted to ask you have you heard of Trachycarpus sp (Manipur)?Is it just another form of Fortunei?I cant find anything on how cold hardy they are,I really like the look of this palm.