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8 Palms Some or All Need Some Help?

19 years ago

Hi,

I have 8 palms in my Orlando, Fl yard. I believe I have a number of issues going on that require treatment. I went ahead and took pics of all the palms and tried to zoom in on their issues....

I placed the palm pics at: http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa316/vince32837/

I included 2 pic directory slides, and all other slides has a name Palm 1 or Palm 4 etc..to reference.

Major Issues have been:

1)yellowing of complete brown coloring (every 30-days)

2)slide 5 (palm 2) that algae growing, chipping away of trunk is that OK? that area gets heavy watering from grass 2X week for 40 min.

3) That pesty white scale insect on slide 18 and 19..I have tried all the stuff in Home depot. fish oils mixed w/ malithion..evert Sat for 8 weeks in a row...go 2 weeks without doing they come back! any real good way to get rid of those tough guys?

Lowes center sold me Sunniland 8-6-6 Palm tree fertilizer for the yellowing said I lacked maganese/ium?? They made me dig 3 holes about 1 ft out from the trunk and pour a coffee cup of fertilizer in each hole water it good back in April...am I covered or do I need to do more?

I have spent 5 years just caring for the grass, the plant life held its own...now its starting to show that lack of care..Any sugggestions on what the 8 palms need would be much appreciated?

Thanks in advance,

Vince (Orlando, FL)

Comments (16)

  • 19 years ago

    All your cycad questions can be answered here:

    http://cycadjungle.8m.com/

    There is no better authority.

  • 19 years ago

    Slide 15 and 16 are just old leafs that are dieing off. Leaves do get old and start turning colors and then go brown and dead. If you dont like them just cut them off.

    Slide 9 looks like an old leaf. They dont last for ever.
    :-)

    slide 8 is old leaves for sure.

    slide 5 and 4 look normal, maybe some old leaves, trunk looks find, less you have raised white bumps, that might be scale.

    slide 1, 2, 3 are normal, leaves getting old about to brown and fall.

    slide 7 is old leaves.

    Thats it, really just looks like you have some old leaves. I cant tell on the trunk unless you get closer. All the other plants look fine. I see no problems. Cut off the dead if you like, other than that, it will brown and fall, this allows for the new growth to take its place.

    Arent you glad you didnt have any problems? :-)

  • 19 years ago

    Hi alex_7b,

    Thanks for the link on cyad...very detailed site as you mentioned. I have a $75 bottle of Bayer (merit) systemic insecticide...I'll pour the systemic on the soil and spray the palms with fish oil....

    Hi orchiddude,

    Here in Orlando it has only rained 1-2 times in 3 months! Dryest on record. All palms getting sprinkler water only 2X/week 40 min ea.

    I cut all the yellow & brown ones off 30-60 days ago. All the pics you see were pure green palm branches 60 days ago!! they turned yellow and complete brown in the last 30-60 days...Is that normal?

    Thanks,
    Vince

  • 19 years ago

    From my laymans point of view I think I would have to agree with orchiddude.....I think its just natural dying of the oldest branches. I mean in all the pics that you put up on your website all the dying branches were in between 5 and 7 o'clock and its quite natural for all of them to look bad no matter what the weather is. If you were having damaged fronds from say 10 to 2 o'clock then I would be a considerably more concerned. As long as they all are putting out new growth to replace the dying ones then I wouldnt worry too much about it. However feel free to water them as you feel they need it.

  • 19 years ago

    LOL sgtksw05...
    "However feel free to water them as you feel they need it"

    Unfortunately almost the whole state of FL (except the extreme Southern peninsula that recently got a good rain) is in a protracted drought and we are all under intense water restrictions in all parts of the state. Many areas in Florida are between 500-700 on the drought scale at the moment (the scale ranges from ZERO (flooded) to 800 (desert). My own county is at about 699 presently.

    WHen Vince says that his palms are getting sprinkler water twice a week, that's all he can give them without risking fines if caught "overwatering" by the water police.

    Actually twice a week is great, many areas can only water ONCE a week. Soon, if the summer rainy season fails (yet again) to kick in, they may take away ALL outdoor irrigation of lawns and ornamental plants.

    And, the state is under a statewide burn ban...you can't have ANY outdoor fires or fireworks, cannot burn trash, cannot burn brush, no campfires, no tiki torches around the pool...the only thing allowed presently in the whole state is BBQ grilling.

  • 19 years ago

    I know bihai, my lungs dont like your smoke bihai. Yall need to get yourself together down there and get your act together. Cut the fires out too. We have had yalls smoke for 3 days up here. I be glad when the wind currents change directions.

    With all that water around yall, looks like the state could de-salt some of it and use it for the problem areas. I means its all about resources, right...LOL

    Anyway, cut the smoking out. :-)

  • 19 years ago

    We'd like to Orchiddude but we keep getting pesky fires jumping our borders from GEORGIA. They can't keep their fires to themselves. We have been dealing with their smoke for a month.
    BTW have you checked my Photobucket recently? There's something in there just for you

  • 19 years ago

    I just needed some re-assurance that the Lowes Sunniland palm fertilizer was all I needed..That the yellow and browning was natural part of life & death of a palm branch............

    Thanks for the advice,
    Vince

  • 19 years ago

    bihai...LOL, like I keep tabs on you. No, I have not looked at it except for the first time. I must admit, I have looked at some others :-)

    Oh, so its Georgia whos causing all the problems. I guess we need to talk with them about that. The wind was blowing a different direction yesterday and it was back to normal. I never would have thought we would smell smoke from fires that far away. It must be some bad fires. I hope they get them put out.

  • 19 years ago

    I personally just use anything I have mostly a 30-10-10 or something mixed and then I use epson salts. I found some palm fert on sale once and bought 4 or 5 cases. I will use that also. I think most palm ferts are about the same. I feed mine about 4 times a year. Your will be ok.

  • 19 years ago

    OD, you should keep tabs on me! You might see somtething you want to trade! Take a look LOL

    Vince,
    on the advice of another person here on the forum (I forget who) I started using Peter's Excel 15-5-15 Cal/Mag.

    Its a water soluble fertilizer you can use like Miracle Grow, but better. Has all the trace/minors, and has Mag/Mang/Fe to supplement our wonderful Florida State Soil, the virtually nutrient-free Myaaka Fine Sand.

    Since I have started using it (I started using it just for the palms, then started using it on other stuff) I have had remarkable results with everything, even some things that were chronically chlorotic

  • 19 years ago

    O'lord! Now I have to hunt for the treasure. If my map is correct, lets see...ten paces to the north, turn at the palm tree toward the sunset, O'gosh, here we go......

  • 19 years ago

    rrrrrrrrrrr 30 paces to the left matey !
    next to the big coconut palm tree!

  • 19 years ago

    I would also add lots of compost and mulch to the base of your palms and other landscape plants. It is an area that is overlooked and helps hold moisture which results in less watering. Vigro Palm Spikes have always been good for my palms even here in Northern Virginia with heavy clay soil.

  • 19 years ago

    bihai,

    For the Peter's Excel 15-5-15 Cal/Mag., do you just mix with water and pour arounf palm? Is it sold at most nursuries?

    the_virginian, thanks for the tips too........

    last weekned it was battle with the Cyad white scale, I pruned off all branches with scale, poured systemic insecticide w/ Merit, and sprayed fish oil all over!

    Vince

  • 19 years ago

    Nope you have to order it. Helena Chemicals probably has it, but, I would get your nursery to order it for you because it apparently requires "special paperwork" for the Dept of Homeland Security. They consider it a high risk, somehow monitor-worthy item. Better your nursery, than you. I guess they think all us plant nuts are also bomb makers.

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