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bonsai palms

18 years ago

Hi All,

I had originally posted this question in the bonsai forum but I think I need more info.

I was surfing the web looking for info on palms and I stumbled across an article talking about bonsai palms.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~jold/bia/articles/bonsai-palms-of-indonesia.shtml

I would like to try growing a golden cane (featured) as well as a Bamboo plam in this way.

Can anyone suggest what sized pot and plant I would need to start with? I have some small group planted golden cane palm seedlings, would these be a good option as they are already going to be competing with eachother? Or should I start with a larger, single plant and repot it with the roots exposed as shown in the pic?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated and I know that torturing palms or stunting thier growth isnt what most of you are into :)

Adam

Comments (9)

  • 18 years ago

    The golden cane (if that's Dypsis lutescens) normally sends up a lot of side shoots from one plant. It looks like that's what's happening in the photo. They do not look like multiple plants. Likely the main mother plant was trimmed off and the suckers were left to grow. I do not know how long this can be sustained. Rhapis palms normally grow slowly and are good candidates.

  • 18 years ago

    I first heard of these a couple years ago. I think they're mail-order only and from over-seas, which makes me suspicious.

    ....I see the pics, but I've also heard of photoshop. Are these real, anyone?

  • 18 years ago

    To me they just look like young palms. They don't really look too much like bonsai palms.

  • 18 years ago

    Hi
    I love to torture plant,palms no excepton lol. You will not arrive at a true Bonsai but a dwarfed palm. Any of the clumpers are a good choice and decide at what level you will allow it to grow ,would suggest no less than one quarter mature height. Have kept Dypsis at less than 2 meters but they did not mature(no seeds)
    There are several ways of "torturing" them but eventually you need root pruning. Would also suggest starting from seed. or if lucky one that has been abused for years but will probably need root pruning right away.
    Single trunk palms are much tougher due to the tap root.
    I grow royals and queens at under 3 meters . but they did not mature so are really just stunted,not true "Bonsai".
    BTW Be prepared to spend years doing this. Dwarfing is for patient gardeners lol. gary

  • 18 years ago

    Do you have any pictures of the royals and queens at under 3m in height?

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks everyone for the advice.

    I think I had the wrong idea about these bonsai, thinking that you can keep small in small pots. I have seen old tub grown golden canes that have started to push themselves out of the pot and start looking like adults. I saw apic of a "bonsai" P. dactylifera which just looked like a potbound specimen.

    I went to a specialist bonsai store yesterday and found these awesome pots for creating miniature landscapes with a pond and a rock outcrop. I bought one thinking it would bee cool to do a Penjing of a beach using wedding palms instead of coconuts which wont grow here.

    Are there any other "miniature" palms that would suit this purpose?

    Adam

  • 18 years ago

    Hi
    About the shortest growing palm that I'm aware of are Chameodorea ,huge family and a couple will mature at under 2 meters!! There is even one that takes on a vine habit.
    Of course there is always bamboo. Will take any abuse you can dish out lol
    I always get a lot of flak that these are not relly "Bonsai" because they don't mature. But at a sixth the normal they certainly are "dwarfs?? lol gary

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks Gary,

    I went up to the nursery and picked up a double planted weddel palm (Lytocaryum weddellianum). I shook it out of the pot and lucky for me most of the roots were rotted so there was no need for pruning! It is now planted in its little bonsai tray. I know its kind of cheating using this small species but I like the dwarf coconut look.

    Adam

  • 18 years ago

    Hi
    Good luck!! Be prepared for many years of careful attention to it lol I would have to agree with the Bonsai people that palms are tough but certainly not impossible.
    gary

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