tdogdad- What do you like about each one of them? How long do the flowers last? What do they smell like (typical frangipani, rose, coconut,...)? It's hard to narrow down my choices. By the way, great picture!

Iso

Check out the website, and under "Products for Sale" all the varieties are listed under their collection names (Bangkok, etc.) with a photo and a brief description of fragrance and growth habit. Doesn't say much about keeping quality but I'd imagine they select their plants for good or better petal texture.

Here is a link that might be useful: Home page

They have Jungle Jacks Plumeria at Home Depot in Southern California. Not too many this time of year though

Iso, I picked divine pretty much because it was suppose to be a great bloomer and I was very new to plumerias so I wanted a plumeria that would never get too big for pots and bloom a lot. Ive had it for 2 summers and last summer was the first time it bloomed, but it bloomed a lot (3 inflos). Now its inside and is semi-dormant. I hope I can get more blooms from it next year.
Divine was my only purchase from them, but I plan on getting some more plumerias from them next spring. The prices are a little expensive, but the plants are very healthy. My divine was small when I got it, but it grew pretty well its first year and has really taken off now that it's established.
I think you should get a few of your favorites. Most plumerias have a great fragrance so it shouldnt disappoint you. The only plumeria I have without a fragrance is Pudica. I know that it can definitely be hard to pick only a few varieties when they are so many nice ones!
Good luck choosing!
-Alex

It is Inca Gold. It was young so it did not have much scent that I remember.
Iso- only divine and xanadu had some scent that I recall. I like color and size of flower and although these are smaller flowers they are quite colorful. Inca gold is more yellow than my University of Hawaii Gold seen below:
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Hi everyody, thanks for all your feedback. It looks like I will just have to wait till next spring to go to Jungle Jack's so I can see the plants blooming, smell the different fragrances, and ask John about keeping quality.
Alex- I went to our Home Depot and they actually had a Divine (with J. Jack's label on it!), but it was just as big a plant as the others in the same size pot. Also, it didn't have any flowers, so I'm not sure it's labeled correctly. Too bad... Can't wait for warmer weather.
I have a 16 ft aviary with finches and decided yesterday to divide it into 2 sectiones. With the plexiglass panels on it, it stays nice and cozy in there. So I figured the left half would be a great place for my plumerias (and orchids) to spend the winter. Believe it or not, a few days ago it was 38F in the morning - and we are only 3 mi. from the beach.

Iso

It might have been mislabeled because a true plumeria divine branches much more and at a much shorter height than most plumerias. I think mine has around 9 tips (only 4 this time last year) and its only about 2 feet tall from the base of the plant to the top. The blooms arent as large as other plumerias, but unlike other plumerias, it will never be too tall for you to not enjoy the flowers! Im also looking forward to the warm weather again! We went down to 31F this weekend and had our first frost then. The days are way below average for the entire forecast with temperatures only in the low to mid 40s. But only another 17 or 18 weeks or so before the plumerias are back out for the summer again!

Good luck!
-Alex

Hello Everyone....

I like the way you think Alex..17-18 weeks, I can't wait!!!

If I saw Plumeria at my local Home Depot with a Jungle Jack's label...I think that I had died and gone to Heaven!!! Makes me shiver at the thought of seeing them there!!! You all are so lucky to have them at your local HD!!! I guess that's a true/good sign of an addiction!!

I still wish I could find Pumice locally too...

Take care everyone!!!

Laura in VB

Same here laura. If I saw a plumeria for sale ANYWHERE near here, I don't even know how I would react! I dont think I will be seeing plumeria for sale here anytime soon though! It would be nice to have a plumeria locally since Im sure that they would do much better sooner without the stress of shipping.

I heard from other posts that if a Home Depot in a different location has a plant that you want, you can tell them to ship it to your local Home Depot and I think that the plant even costs the same price. Im not sure if any of that is true or not, but it would be pretty cool if it is!

Good luck!
-Alex

Hello everyone!
I bought the 'Divine' plumeria about a month ago from Jungl Jack's Ebay store. The plant came in great shape and VERY well rooted. I had read other posts about how the root system wasn't that great but the roots on this 'Divine' were actually coming out the drainage holes.
I also wantd to add that I too have noticed how my 'Divine' sucks up a ton of water compared to my other plumeria, actually it soaks up more water than some of my house plants.

Iso, you may see that Jungle Jack's prices are high but to me you pay for what you get and also, I don't think you can buy the 'Divine' anywhere else.

You guys talking about cold weather cracks me up! I would love to switch places with any one of you right now. I live in western NY, about an hours south west of Buffalo. Beginning on Wednesday, Buffalo and the South towns were hit by a strong lake effect snow storm dumping between 12 and 26 inches of snow. Some places I believe had even more snow than that. People were stranded on the thru way. Some for a few hours like my poor brother and his family. His son had his tonsils out and they took the thruway to get hom and got stuck for 3 and a half hours. The snow rates were around 3 inches an hour!!That is extreme weather for this time of year. Now we didn't get any of those accumilations. Today were are supposed to get between 4-6 inches.

Time to move to either Califonia or Florida!
Andrew

Hi Laura!!

I wish my local HD sold anything but the same ole raggety regular houseplants you can get for a dime a dozen..I remember once they sold chalamondin trees about 10 years ago, and never again..:-(( My HD stinks!

Thought I would stop by and say hello to you..:-) Jee I miss your fully green lucious plumies by the pool..!

I heard about all that snow Andrew!!1 Over 3 feet of it..I hate winter and thank goodness I am no where near there..I thought we were suppose to be spared a cold winter this year? I would love to live in Calif. or Florida too! I wish I could live in my house in the Tropics!

Mike

Mike and Andrew. Don't be fooled. California can be rough too. I had to put on long jeans today with my flip flops and T-shirt because it got down to 69 degrees. And to think yesterday I was paddling in a bathing suit enjoying a week of mid seventies weather. Winter is such suffering. (meant as kidding and not cruel-Bill)

I also heard about all the snow! We will probably have a storm sometimes in another week or 2. The cold air is definitely here! Florida sounds really nice right now! California had such a cool (even cold) summer, but most of the time the weather is beautiful there too! If I can grow a plumeria to a tree size outside (and it blooms often), I have found my perfect climate!
Good luck!
-Alex

Andrew, I know what you are talking about concerning crazy winters - I am from northern Germany, but have lived here for 25 years (my blood is thin now). Germany had so much snow these last few days that they closed Frankfurt airport several times - glad I'm not there...
Alex and Laura, yes our HD has plumerias, but they don't take care of them. The ones they have left are outside up against a chain link fence - no protection at 38-40F for a few nights. I asked if they would sell them for less (so I could recue 1 or 2), but they said 'no, if they die, we just return our plants to the vendors'. Doesn't that just drive you crazy?

Iso

Iso, HD doesn't really seem to take care of all their plants. I saw a huge Chamaedorea seifrizii palm for 70 dollars that was 7 feet tall. I went there 2 weeks later and they were pretty much dead, but still being sold. It makes me upset too. I saw some pineapples also at HD 3 or 4 years ago and some of the pineapple fruit on top of the plants were broken off. That was pretty sad to see.
Good Luck!
-Alex

Hi Iso - I share your frustration at the lack of info on JJ's plants, and the wallet-draining proximity to his stock! I got a bunch of his plants this summer at HD - on the 'premium' labeled ones, look for metal tags or writing on the trunk, and you may score a great plant. Don't expect the vibrant colors of the catalog unless you can duplicate the heat and humidity of Thailand.

If there's a hook at the leaf tip, it is most likely one of his Penang Peach seedlings, which is his preferred source of new varieties. Also look for leaf scars that are close together, as that is usually a compact grower.

Their soil is rather heavy in order to deal with the rigors of shipping - I repot them soon after purchase to prevent rot during our rainy winters.

Afrique - supposed to have great fragrance.

Artic Sun very unique and delicate white blooms with pointed tips. 3” shaded along the edge with a beautiful soft pink trim and curled edges. Medium to short growth habit and is consistent bloomer putting out multiple inflo on a short branches.

Delightful JJ LOR on trunk. Incredible 3-4” pink white that belongs in every collection. Strong bloomer with a great form and incredible scent. One of our best. Growth habit:: semi-compact Scent : Strong perfume.

Firestorm JJ ultimate brilliant rainbow. JJ Great bloomer with 4” flowers. Medium growth habit and a strong floral scent - scent is light frangipani. Late Bloomer..but well worth the wait..the scent is amazing.

Honeypot JJ yellow/white, tends to be a strong early bloomer with numerous clusters of 3”+ flowers. Can break as many as ten times after a bloom. Growth habit : medium with heavy branching Scent:: medium buttery floral. Might be a Madame Poni seedling.

Inca Gold There are two must-have yellows; Afrique is one, this is the other. Consistent early bloomer, with semi-compact to medium growth form and flowering habit Aztec Gold could only wish for. Scent:: medium floral Recommended for the coast.

Mona Lisa Delicately shaded 3-4” flowers with slightly wavy leaves. Semi-compact growth habit with a lovely perfume scent.

Xanadu JJ: Large clusters of 4” white /pink flowers. Growth habit:: medium Scent:: strong floral

Ditto on the Divine recommendation, and also look for California Sunset for compact growth and continuous bloom, Elsie for lovely round blooms, Thumbelina plus Scentsation for its strong fragrance and huge blooms.

California Sunset JJ Thailand seedling of Penang Peach Vibrant color; good fragrance; thick petals, 2-4” flower. With heat, color changes to more pink/orange/yellow 15-20' tall, 12-15', Fragrant white and pale Yellow flowers semi-compact grower and an incredible bloomer, with a wonderful buttery scent and large clusters. Apricot-peach, yellow-colored flower, pale pink splash band on one side of the petal, medium pink line on the edge of the petal, nice texture, sweet medium scents. Pronounced hook on leaf ends. Blooms every year all season long and scent is amazing.

Divine true miniature plumeria - we have 4 year old Divines that are only around 2-2.5 feet tall, with up to 80 tips, and an average of around 50-60. It will bloom every year, and sometimes grows as little as an inch before budding again. Fuzzy pubescent leaves. Water lover. The leaves on the Divine are thick and shiny.

Elsie 3" rounded flowers of dark pink with lighter pink to white area. Petals round, heavily overlapping. Leaves: beautiful emerald green, broad oval. Compact growth habit. During development we called it the ‘painted pink’, as when flowers are at their pink it looks like the colors were painted on. 3-4” flowers in good clusters. Excellent form and habit. Growth habit: semi-compact Scent: medium floral, Nice thick substance, fat buds and sturdy inflo stems. Stunning pink and white swirl strong sweet fragrance. Seedling of Penang Peach produces thick clusters of rounded flowers of dark pink, lighter pink and white, with a somewhat swirling effect. The tree is thick-branched, yet compact like her seed parent. The leaves even have the little ''hook' on the tip like Penang Peach. The fragrance is nicely sweet. This beauty was hybridized in Thailand and released in 2007. Good mixed of pink on the flowers, orange center, when the buds start to open, the color very intense pink then turn into nice pink when fully open, pink band on the back of petals. Love the strong bands of red and pink in the petals. Recommended. 3" Dark pink with lighter pink and white areas. Floral scent and heavy strong bloomer. Very thick leaves. A new compact variety of 3" overlapped flowers of red, dark pink and white. Penang Peach seedling. Very strong sweet fruity perfume. Non stop bloomer..super nice colors. Fairly mild floral scent. Retains strong pink color after picking.

Scentsation JJ large. thick white with strong spicy scent like Stargazer lilies. Marked 'FW' on trunk for Fragrant White.

Thumbalina JJ: Incredible early bloomer, with flowers in a vivid array of colors, almost kaleidoscopic in fashion. Highly compact growth habit. One of our more unique flowers, almost not like a plumeria. Features a multitude of 2-3” blooms in a kaleidoscope of color. Excellent early bloomer. Growth habit:: very compact Scent:: light floral. Heavy bloomer.

Hi slave2thefur, just found your amazingly detailed post! Sure appreciate all the effort you put into it. All these plants sound wonderful which just complicates things even more for me. Do you have all of them in your yard? Sure would love to see them. It seems like I might be pretty close to you since I actually live in Carlsbad.
One thing you didn't address is keeping quality. What is your experience there? I have 2 no-name white w. yellow centers plumerias that I got as big cuttings from a friend. The fragrance is incredible and very clean, but they only last 2 or 3 days - so disappointing! I planted one of them in a pot and the other one directly in my flowerbed about 1 1/2 years ago, and the one in the ground is about twice as big as the other one. Go figure. Probably beginner's luck considering our clay soil. But I'm getting off topic, just wanted to explain why keeping quality is so important to me. Thanks for your input.

Iso

I also live in C'bad, near the coast. Good news - frost and freezes are rare. Bad news - no heat to drive color or size, and the soil is an ancient marine terrace mixed with silt, clay and sand. Drainage is non-existent, and I lost a bunch of plants to drowning during the winter rainy season.

The notes above are from a doc that I use to condense the flotsam and jetsam of information and observations that can be found on the web and in forums. One reason is to avoid duplicate plants due to an aka, another was to find the best blooms for a Goldilocks container garden: not too hot, not too cold and not in the ground. For example, if the description says 'needs heat for color' or 'tall', it's off my wish list.

Keep in mind that blooms get better in color, size and fragrance as the plant builds a root structure and gains strength. Don't despair - your cuttings may yet turn into a killer plant.

Recommendations, considering keeping quality and coastal conditions...
Celadine
Kaneohe Sunburst, Sunrise
Ferris Wheel
Divine
CA Sunset (in lieu of Penang Peach)
Elsie
Scensation
Kimo
Samoan White
CA Sally
Church Ruffles
Dean Conklin
Indian Ivory
Jenny
Mazatlan
SD Sunset
Teresa Wilder

There are plenty I wouldn't recommend and some are too young to really pass judgment. In general, I've been very happy with JJ's plants, as they usually are compact and bloom well even when small. Not cheap, but addictive, and these locally grown plants don't have adaptation problems even though they come from greenhouses.

The local plumeria society has nice folks and is very good, and has a cutting sale in the spring. JJ has an open house in the summer, but I've found that by stalking HD deliveries I can find many of his plants. That's where my doc comes in handy before handing over my cash - good coastal choice or not?

If you or anyone else would like an html copy of the description doc just drop me a PM.

HTHs... let me know if you have questions, and hopefully other local growers will chime in ... diana

Hi Diana, thanks once again for all the info. Now I have even more choices. Do you have an opinion on 'Hilo Beauty'?
- I checked Home Depot today, and the plumerias they still had just a week ago have disappeared. Wanted to check the name tags. Guess I will have to wait till the spring...
- Different question, if I may ask: several weeks ago I got a big 2ft cutting ('Cook's Bay') with 3 tips from somebody who advertised on craigslist. I gave it plenty of time to callus over, then dipped it in rooting hormone and put it into moist peat moss in a plastic bag(John Tarvin's Bag Rooting Technique - I read about it on the internet and it sounded like it might work even in the winter). Now one of the three 'branches' (10" long) looks quite shriveled and seems softer than the others. The other two still seem to be fine. Do I cut the shriveling one off? Is it the beginning of rot? If so, could it spread to the other two branches? Boy, there is so much to know...
I sure appreciate everybody's advice!

Iso

I've never gotten HB to root (twice) so consider getting one already rooted at the SDPS sale in Sept next year. You may also like Scott Pratt or the local Dragon Heart (look for Doug at the sale). On FB, 'Like' the Southern California Plumeria Society to see what others are successfully growing in this area.

From my notes...

Dragon Heart: Dark, rich red with small whitish center and somewhat grainy pigmentation, radiating dark red lines on front, wide curved petals, rounded tips heavily overlapping. 3 1/2", strong spicy fragrance. Excellent keeping quality.

Hilo Beauty aka Dakota's Curling Red, Burgundy Special, Black Red: #132 Excellent deep glossy Velvety Red with a long lasting extra spicy fragrance. One of the longest lasting. Trees have tight branching. Not an easy cutting to root. Strong red w/large, strong red center; petal wide, elliptical, round tip, slightly overlapping, moderate reddish-brown bands on front and back; heavy texture; scent slight spicy becoming stronger on storage. Strong all red windmill flowers with pointed tips. Flowers have a good citrus spicy fragrance with a good keeping quality. Medium sized, well branched tree with reddish green colored leaves. Strong maroon red, same center, dark reddish-brown bands on front and back, tendency to fade very slight, wide elliptical petals, rounded tips, slight overlapping, 3-4". Flowers are very dark maroon with good texture. Elliptical petals with slightly pointed tips. Flowers are up to 4". Has strong spicy, citrus fragrance. Dark red flower. Tall upright grower. Dies back to main branch when trimmed. Depending on the time of day and sky conditions the colors will change to a more bright red from the blood red color normally seen. Smells like cinnamon and the flowers fade/drain to almost white with a burgundy center. This is the largest of the strong red plumerias. Since cuttings tend to rot easily, allow ends to dry and callus before planting in soil with good drainage. A large burgundy red with a fine scent. Deep, blood-red plumeria with pretty leaves that contain reddish veination. Dark, almost black center veining. Recommended for the coast. Fast growing tree with spicy fragrance. Dark Reddish-maroon with a good texture, flower with pointed tips with one black vein in each petals, A upright grower with dark green leaves and blood red petals with black edges. The fragrance is floral. Dark velvety red, star-shaped flowers with wide, elliptical petals that slightly overlap. The reddish-brown to purplish bands on front and back create a very dark red or maroon appearance. Keeping quality is excellent, one of the best! Flowers are large, 3-1/2 to 4 inches in diameter with a spicy fragrance that increases after picking. The largest of the strong red cultivars. the petals look like red velvet. Hilo Beauty has a black line through the middle of each flower petal - it is straight and not generated by heat, but it is a normal marking. Flower petals are pointed. Scott Pratt is a much smaller flower with thicker flower texture. The flower petals are rounded and almost waxy in texture. The most noticeable difference between SP and HB is that the leaves on the Scott Pratt will stay up right and not drop down to the sides, in other words all the leaves will be pointed up towards the sky. The leaves on Scott Pratt also have a very red underside with heavy veining of red. The leaves on the Hilo have a blue green look. Should be grafted.

Scott Pratt #093 aka Kohala, Koloa Red, Kimi Beauty (close if not same). Deep red with black-red radiating from center and a spicy fragrance that increases after picking. One of the best reds, earliest and easiest to bloom. Dark leaves, dark velvety red flowers about 2 1/2" that have fine purple-black veins radiating from the center and a reddish-brown band on the reverse side. A very long blooming variety. Slight spicy or coconut scent increases after picking. Easy to grow. Hard to root. Strong red w/small, strong red center and fine black radiating lines; petal narrow, elliptical, round tip, moderately overlapping; moderate reddish-brown band on back. Dark Maroon red 2" flowers. Small to medium growing tree with dark red-green leaves. Beautiful dark velvety red flowers 2.5" that have fine purple-black veins radiating from the center and a reddish-brown band on the reverse side. Slight spicy or coconut scent increases after picking. This is the pollen parent of the famous Moragne hybrids. The flowers are typically shot through with black veins. Medium Dark burgundy flower with black veins. Very dark green leaves with red veins. Medium compact tree. Prone to black tip. Very difficult to root. Scott Pratt managed the Kohala Sugar plantation on the island of Hawaii and that the plant may have been taken to Kauai. Blood red to almost burgundy. Flower production is fair to moderate during spring and summer. It is usually among the first to bloom, often producing flowers before the leaves. Seedpods are rarely seen on it. Blood red Hawaiian plumeria. True colors of this 2.5" stunner are black veins running through the petals. Sweet and spicy scent, reminiscent of a tropic fruit cocktail with hints of coconut and cinnamon. Undersides of the leaves have dark red/maroon veins. Recommended for the coast. Dark velvet red, 2.25" purple veins radiating from the center, reddish-brown band on the back, slight spicy or coconut scents. Much wider than tall. The leaves have a bronze cast and they grow upward. The plant itself is a horizontal grower. Didn't find it to be a horizontal grower.....in fact, Scott Pratt was one of the tallest plumerias I had, reaching over 7 feet. Scott Pratt is a dark red with rounded petals. Hilo Beauty is another dark red but the petals are more pointed. Lots of veining too, especially as it fades. Unusually deep red flowers with deep purple-black veins and a wide, dark, purple-brown stripe on the reverse. A very long blooming variety producing until late in the season. Flowers are of heavy substance, average 3 inches across, and have excellent keeping quality and a delicious sweet fragrance reminiscent of coconut oil. Recommended for the coast. leaves are dark and a tint, almost olive green color with a very dark reddish brown tinted underside. dark purple-red new leaves that are held upright. Wide sweeping branch habit. the leaves have a bronze cast and they grow upward. The plant itself is a horizontal grower.

I was told that HD and its ilk return plumerias to the growers at the end of the season. I can't stress enough that both C Stars and JJ soil is designed for shipping and needs to be swapped with soil that is well draining in order for the plant to survive dormancy during our cold rainy season. I lost a lot of plants the first year until I started doing that - and make sure no earthworms are in the pots.

Oh my, Cooks Bay... from the lovely Kay in Vista? If so, she's terrific and has wonderful robust plants. This is a tough time of year to root unless you provide bottom heat, though I've not used the baggie method myself. Check for white sap or a bad smell on the suspect branch.

A photo would help.

Hi Diana, sorry it's taking me so long to respond. I can't figure out how to post pictures...
In your last post you said at the beginning, "On FB, 'Like' the Southern California Plumeria Society to see what others are successfully growing in this area." What does that mean? And who is Doug who sells Dragon Heart at the plant sales in Sept.? I did check out Dragon Heart and Hilo Beauty some more, and both sound great. Can't wait for September.
The big Cook's Bay cutting I bought, is from a lady here in Carlsbad. She has a BIG plant, and this looks like a branch that they cut off. The shrively growth still looks the same: no white sap or weird smell. Keep your fingers crossed. I'll post a picture if I can figure it out. What do you know about Cook's Bay? The lady showed me a georgeous flower that came from that plant: orangey-yellow with red veins. Does that sound right? If you have a picture, can you post it? And who is 'Kay in Vista'? Could I buy plants from her? There is so much we newcomers don't know...
Thanks once again!
Iso

FB is Facebook, and they set it up so that others can post photos of what they are growing. It gives you a good idea of what blooms well here and what it looks like, since local conditions affect the color and size of flowers.

Doug is one of the local growers, tho retired, he still sells select plants at the sale. Prior to the sale, SCPS posts on their website the names of plants that will be available... and some go quick!

Kay in Vista has plants from Hawaii, and I assumed that Cooks Bay was one she propagated and named for the locale. Mine has not bloomed, but your descriptions sounds correct. She's selling off her large collection of potted plants and rooted cuttings - send me an email and I'll hook you up. Get cuttings in the spring. I got Kaneohe Sunrise from her - not to be missed!

A bad smell is not a good sign - if you stick a pin in the cutting, it should not ooze black/brown, but white. If the branch is rotted, it will eventually kill the whole cutting. If one branch is shriveled but the rest looks ok, cut it off until you see only white wood .... and sterilize the shears with alcohol between cuts (Important!)

To post photos, they need to be loaded into web-based service like Picasaweb or Flickr. Search GW for help - there's plenty of write-ups.

Here is a link that might be useful: Southern California Plumeria Society

Diane and Iso- Here is another picture of my K.sunset which I find to be a beautiful flower, too. However, in colder weather the flowers can be quite washed out. Bill
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Stuck a pin into the branch, white sap, no bad smell!
More later,
Iso

@tdog - interesting, as my K. Sunrise had consistently bright colors all summer regardless of the temp, and then faded over time. You can see the new bloom on the left and an older one on the right. The hot colors are one of the reasons I like it so much, as I don't need heat to drive the color saturation. Same with K. Sunburst.

Mine never looked like your 2nd pic, even tho the summer was lamentably cool.

probably because I am in north Costa Mesa, a zone 9. and get a bit more outwash cold from the mountains. My sunburst is consistently colorful and is still flowering today.
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Bill and Diana - you've got me all mixed up now. You guys posted 3 pictures, and you are talking about K. Sunrise,
K. Sunburst and K. Sunset. What are the differences (fragrance, keep. quality,...) between these three? They all look lovely!
Iso

Iso- my bad. I meant(on the first set of pics) K.sunrise.

I am glad to see these pix Bill. I have been wanting to get a Kaneohe Sunset . You have convinced me. Thanks!

Here is a picture of a plumeria I bought last month, who knows what name, it was labeled " pink" from Armstrong, I got 3 plants, 50% off. Couldn't beat the price, and the blossom is neat!

Labland-great bloom!!
Bill-I love your Sunrise more in cooler weather..
Iso-Since you're close to JJ you should just drive over and take a look, its wonderful, been there at least a hundred times..lol..I love the Jacky among his other plants, but JJ does have many beautiful and rare Unknowns that sometimes you can't find another. I'm addicted to that place..Can't wait till spring, thats when I do the most damage...lol..good luck finding your "perfect" Plumeria..

Nikki.T

Nikki - I'm with you: can't wait for spring to get here so I can go to JJ and check out his plants in person. My friend talked to John the day before yesterday, and if I understood it correctly, he will be going to Thailand for a few weeks to bring back cuttings (after X-mas). What a great trip that would be...
I know that the SD Plumeria Society will be having a cutting sale in the spring. Do you guys think the cuttings will be big enough to bloom this year (after they are properly rooted)? Or is it worth it to wait for the plant sale in September? Seems like I'll have plenty of chances between JJ and these sales to start a great collection.
Iso

Iso- I think you get better cuttings in the spring. Bill

I think Jungle Jack plumerias are the bomb. Wait !! can I say bomb on the internet. Sorry- we have some crazy people who live around here.

Does anyone find that they are less cold tolerant?

I have 3 plumerias at my home in Ontario, Calif and they are perfectly fine. But at my friend's house in Riverside both Jungle Jack's that we got last summer (Honey Pot and CA Sunset) have defoliated completely (after that freak frost) and the growing tips on them are like slightly mushy. I'm not sure if those tips will grow back but the rest of the plants are firm. Compare that to two other plumerias at my friend's house that are still 'fine'. One is a Pacific Pearl purchased around the same time as the JJ's and another is unknown (but a few years old).

Hello Everyone!!!

Bill,

That K Sunburst is such a beautiful Bloom...very bright, Vibrant color...lucky people to have JJ's so close to you!!!

I wish that we had a place like JJ's close to us here on the East Coast...

Should have put the K Sunburst on my Christmas Wish List for Santa!!!

Is the SD Plumeria Society cutting sale open to anyone?
If so..when is this sale..I would be willing to fly out there and go shopping!! Or even wait for JJ's open House.
But, the cutting sale sounds great!!!

Any info will be much appreciated!!!

Do I sound like I have an addiction? Ok...I will answer my own question...."Definately"

Santa brought me a new greenhouse...so now my "family" can go in the greenhouse instead of the "backroom" here in my house for winter dormancy!!!

Now...I can really go shopping!!!

Thanks everyone!!!

Happy New Year!!!

Put on the "Black eyed Peas!!!"

Laura in VB

Hi Laura, just looked up the info for the cutting sale on their website (socalplumeriasociety.com): the sale will be on April 2 and 3, 10am to 4pm both days, open to the public and free admission. It's in Balboa Park in downtown San Diego,Casa Del Prado room 101. They only accept cash or check, no credit cards.
I've never been to one of these cutting sales, but if it is anything like the plant sale last September, it will be crowded! I also checked to see if there is any info yet on JJ's open house, but I can't find anything.
You got a real greenhouse for Christmas? LUCKY! That would be heaven. I can already tell that the plants I put into my makeshift greenhouse (=part of my aviary) are doing quite well. Two or three days ago we had a really cold night (for this area) with frost on all the roofs, and those plants looked perfectly happy the next morning.
Happy New Year everyone!
Iso

PS: Diana, so far I can't see any roots yet on my Cook's
Bay cutting (in that plstic bag), but also no more
shriveling, and the tips are actually greening up a
little. Wish me luck...

http://www.socalplumeriasociety.com/ and click on the 2011 schedule. The South coast site is down but I can find out as they sell at all meetings. Jungle Jacks open house is in May but I have not seen a date yet. All are open to the public.

Thanks Iso...I will check it out!!! Sounds like fun...
Good luck with your new cuttings!!! My greenhouse might be small to some...but for me, it will be perfect for what I need...the measurements are 7'9" X 12' X 7'9" Can't wait!!!

Bill...Thanks for the info!!

Laura in VB

Congrats on the greenhouse Laura!!! Now you have a little bit of extra room for even MORE plants! It must feel great! Good luck!
-Alex

Hey Alex,

Yes..I am very pleased with the "santa" present...seems like someone knows that I need more room!!! (I reread the measurements..it's 8x12x8) LOL... but, it does make me want to go shopping!!! Hey, it could be worse... I could have a shoe fetish or clothes..handbags...etc...but, mine is plants/trees!!! LOL...

Want to go to the cutting sale? LOL...I wish that we had something like that closer to us...Florida has a Plumeria group..but I think that the Californians have a bigger and better one!!!

Oh..to only be closer to CA!!!

How are your plumies Alex? Everything ok? Lets see some blooms so that we can think summer!!! LOL...

Take care everyone...

Laura in VB

Hey Iso, haven't seen any recent posts to this topic, and you may already know this by now, but JJ also has a 'Mini White' that you may be interested in. It is another miniature similar to 'Divine'. I have both of them since last Nov. No blooms yet.
Tom

Hi Tom, can't believe you revived this old post and with such perfect timing. JJ's had his open house today and I came home with -only- 2 new plants (do you know how hard that was?): I got a 1 gallon 'Mona Lisa' and a 2 gallon plant that looks very much like 'Sparkle'. John couldn't give me a definite name for it, but whatever it is, the fragrance is amazing (clean and citrusy). Also, they were giving everyone who had signed in, a rooted 'Divine' cutting (in one of those black plastic tubes). What a treat! Now let's hope I can get it out without tearing the roots off.
Have a great weekend everyone,
Iso

Hello Iso...

You lucky lady!!!

Id give anything to be able to have visited JJ's Open House today...

You know how i love to travel... LOL Pack plumies too!!

I cant believe you were so good today....i cant wait to see pics of you new trees..

What a great treat to receive a rooted Divine...WOW!!! Thats a great little gift!!!

I have enjoyed seeing this thread again...i have saved some of Diana's post..she has some of the best notes on all of these beauties..and is such a sweetie to share all of her experiences with us...Thank you again Diana!!!

I do read the notes that you gave to me quite often...you are a doll!!

I Hope everyone is having a great summer...

I have several inflos ready to bloom within the next week or two...ET Lemon Drop is blooming now..and a few Noids..

But hey!!! Im happy to have any blooms....

Take care everyone..

Laura in VB

Hi Laura, I was thinking about you today, too. I know you would have been there if at all possible... Also saw Diana there but I'm not sure what she got. It was so much warmer in Vista than in Carlsbad (where I live - just 15 minutes away). After spending 2 1/2 hours hunting through the greenhouses I was thoroughly cooked and just had to go. I guess I'll just have to call her later.
If you want to do some more travelling: the San Diego Plumeria Society has its annual plant sale scheduled for the first weekend in September! We would love to see you again...
Have a great Sunday,
Iso

Hi Laura, I just saw your January post now, but better late than never! Im glad that summer finally came!

I have to say that my Divine is stealing the show again this year because it looks like its going to have 4 or 5 inflos (maybe 6 if you count the one that the cutting of that divine is making). My first and largest plumeria looks like its trying to make an inflo too so it looks like I should finally have some plumeria bloom pics to share soon! The cuttings you gave me are doing fantastic. Right now the Scott Pratt is actually out growing the California Sunset (even though it rooted 2 months after the California Sunset!)

Hope everyone is having a great growing season so far!
-Alex

Hi Alex, I hope you'll post pictures of Scott Pratt when it blooms! I am rooting a Scott Pratt cutting, but of course not expecting to see any blooms this season.
I love Divine too, it is a great plant! Sounds like you are going to have a great bloom season!

Im also not expecting blooms from my Scott Pratt this season, but I guess you never know!
I was starting to think that this year would be a bad one for the plumerias, but it looks like I will be getting a good amount of blooms afterall! Im looking forward to sharing pics of the blooms!
-Alex

Hello Everyone...

Iso..sounds like fun.. i wish that i could have been there today...I guess i was there in spirit..LOL I would have to explain my self to the Crew again...LOL...i would have to bribe them to let me on the plane..LOL!!!

i cant wait to see pics!!!

Alex...Im so glad that the Scott Pratt rooted for you!!! WHew!!! Its a hard one to root...so you did great!!! The Ca Sunset will be a beauty as well..

This will be the best year for me as far as inflos...they all look healthy..my ET Lemon Drop is blooming along with a few Pink Noids and a white Noid...ill post on a new thread tomorrow..

Glad to hear the good news on the cuttings...

Take care...

Laura in VB

Good news about all your inflos! Looking forward to seeing your thread! Scott Pratt is now on its 3rd leaves for each tip! I cant wait until it blooms, but Im just happy that its getting established!

-Alex