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Salvias that don't flop?

18 years ago

I decided that I'd like to plant a few salvias in my gardens but when I started researching types, (looking for one that blooms in early June), I keep seeing complaints of flopping plants. I'm not that familiar with salvias, so I'm wondering if there is a variety that is less likely to flop than others? Is there a good internet site where I could see pics of different types? Also, are salvias in the sage family?

Comments (6)

  • 18 years ago

    Salvias are sages. Try Robin Middleton's website for photos of lots of salvias.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Robin's Salvia Gallery

  • 18 years ago

    Salvia:
    greggii
    buchananii
    chamaedryoides (low mound)
    chiapensis
    clevelandii
    gramhammii x lemmonii
    x jamensis
    microphylla
    muelleri

  • 18 years ago

    Being you are in Zone 5-6 with snowcover some
    Salvia varieties to try
    S. pratensis
    S.nemerosa (not the form called plumosa the flowers flop)
    S. Patens
    S. koyamae
    S. azurea "Nekan"
    S pratensis & nemerosa hybrids
    S. jurisicii
    S. lyrata
    these should be reliable perennials
    Some annual forms
    S. coccinea
    S. splendens
    S. chiapensis
    S. greggii
    S. microphylla
    etc...
    I don't know how close you are to the New York Botanic Gardens but that should show you what does well in your
    area.try some other relatives like:
    Perovskia atriplicifolia (Russian Sage)
    etc.. Don't be afraid to experiment trial
    and error you can end up with unexpected surprises.

  • 18 years ago

    A couple of taller Salvias which may suit: guaranitica & meyeri (now correctly named as S. rhinosina).

  • 18 years ago

    I'm zone 5 too.
    I can only comment on the blue-purple forms as that's all I like-

    These are all winter hardy for you-
    May Night- longest blooming, most color, not flopping but it grows and expands- I divide it every 2-3 years.

    Blue Queen- not a true blue not as good as Maynight not a flopper

    East Friesland- not a flopper- much slower growing than Maynight ( could be where it's planted too)

    Carradona- sp? new to me- no flopping yet

    Transylvanica- a rangy flopper, self sows a LOT

    That really blue one with a few bigger flowers that is not hardy- can't think of the name- 2-3 ft plant-
    could never get a blooming plant from seed and I'm not about to buy the annual plant- ugliosa??

    karen

  • 18 years ago

    Blue Queen is nice, full upright plant with plenty of flowers.

    I love Caradonna for dark stems even after blooms are done on stem. A few outer stems sag but I prop up with a couple inconspicuous "Y" twigs. It's so beautiful I want more.

    **Can Caradonna be root propogated? Any experience and/or success? If not where would Salvia afficionados here suggest purchasing them?

    May Night is splayed beyond salvage this year.

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