Turn the brown seedhead upsidedown and gently rub your finger across it. The seeds will fall out. They are slim and tiny, black, about an eighth of an inch long. They're deep inside the head.

and they look like woody, slightly tapered, stubby "sticks".

If you put all the stuff that comes off the dead flower into a ziplock bag, shake/jiggle it around...the seeds fall to the bottom and you can scoop them out from under the "other stuff" with a spoon down the side of the bag.

--Tina