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Winter plants in SFG are a bust

17 years ago

I had high hopes, and they were dashed to say the least. I'll leave room for the possibility that I did something wrong? But here's what I came out with.

All of the following were planted according to our dates here for this zone and pretty much on time

I planted the following from seed that got transplanted to the garden: broccoli, cabbage, collards, turnip, onions the only thing remotely growing are the onions, and a bit of the turnip greens.

These I planted from store bought seedlings: more brocolli, cauliflower, cabbage NOTHING grew period. I also purchased some arugula plants in 3 inch peat pots, they are so so, but no real size to them and many of them are going to seed very quickly...

I also planted from sown seed, beets and I saw nice green tops but today I pulled some up and they were no bigger than radishes some even smaller and many of them were just all hairy roots.

This is most discouraging and frankly a big waste of time. My containers are a combo of composted material, peat and perlite and a bit of sand, some even have potting mix added in. All of them were made on top of decent soil (albeit clayish) covered with cardboard and then filled up with the mix.

What could have gone wrong?

Comments (17)

  • 17 years ago

    The first thing I would suspect is your soil is too dry. A tip off is, your seeds did not germinate firstly and your plants did not do well. There may be other reasons but that is what I would suspect.

    John

    Here is a link that might be useful: Johns Journal

  • 17 years ago

    When did you plant? I planted by our GA calendar as well and nothing has come up or done well either. I had to replant most everything and am just now seeing some tiny seedlings. I don't think we were ready for that HUGE cold spell last week.

  • 17 years ago

    I'm confused. Was this stuff planted in the fall or this year in the last month?

  • 17 years ago

    These plants were all planted in the Fall for a winter harvest. And seedlings DID come up (ie: turnip greens in one planter, which were planted the very latest of everything I had mentioned). Probably put out sometime in December. These plants actually dont look half bad, they just are not really big (yet?) I've not given up on them.

    The soil was kept moist (mainly by regular rains as well as watering in between).

    When pulling up the beets for example the soil is perfectly moist, no evidence of drying out. I kept a pretty regular watering schedule.

    Also I broadcast time released fertilzer about November I'd say.

    The cold temps last week, may have stunted some of the greens, but they did not appear to be dead from it.

  • 17 years ago

    Not sure about GA, but here in WA, I know I planted way too late. I needed much more growth in late summer, early fall before the cold temps of winter kicked in. My hoop covers didn't provide the temp protection I had hoped and all my plants died as well. If I can't provide answers, at least take comfort in the fact you were not alone... There's always next year.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Sinfonian's garden adventure!

  • 17 years ago

    Sounds to me like they were planted too late. Georgia has areas that have the same planting times as my area of Texas and all those veggies went in my garden in mid to late August. The only thing that went in later was spinach because it refuses to germinate in the heat.

    Did you amend the soil before planting? Plants only need food, air, water and the right temps to grow. One was missing or there was too much of one.

  • 17 years ago

    rjinga...hmmm. What I have done is plant a complete 4X4 box in nothing but spinach. We eat it, and then when the weather gets too cold or when I just get tired of gardening, I go out and just snip off all the spinach leaves and leave the main plants in the ground. I dont cover them at all for the winter. I live in Utah, so, we usually get a pretty good dose of snow. When the snow has melted and it begins to warm even a little, I have all my spinach that has over-wintered. I can send you a picture of what it looks like right now after a hard winter if you like. Just send email....maybe another idea..

  • 17 years ago

    I had a couple spinach plants that I planted in the fall (not early enough to do much). I didn't have the heart to pull them up so when it got cold I tossed a few inches of hay over them. I checked on them a couple weeks ago and not only are they alive but they had some center leaves that look like new growth that are a couple inches tall now. Surprising since we've certainly had temps around zero.

    I may seriously consider snibbs method for next year.

  • 17 years ago

    I wish I'd read this last fall. I dug out all my spinach the day before we headed south, and threw it in the compost bin. If I had just tossed some hay over it, or cut it back like snibb, I might have had fresh spinach waiting for me when I get home in a couple of weeks.

    Granny

    Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden

  • 17 years ago

    Granny,
    I was pretty surprised to find them alive under there! I have some little carrots in there that are alive too.

  • 17 years ago

    do they keep growing if you mow over them and the tops are cut? i know it sounds dumb, but i am curious! hubs mowed everything down, and we had leeks, carrots, beets some other kinda stuff in our catch all garden, some i knew had grown, but i didn't know if it had stopped and died after hubs mowed it down. now i have everything in their own box, and DARE him to mow them!! **mean grinn** no weeds grow there though!! LOL ~Medo
    that is weird Rjinga!! all kinda stuff grew in mine, but no winter, although i didn't plant any, i didn't even think of it **snapping finger**

  • 17 years ago

    Medo, I do know radishes don't grow back after the rabbits eat the tops. LOL, at least they picked something I don't really like all that much!

    Granny

    Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden

  • 17 years ago

    when you chop off the tops of carrots, they still grow. Some folks use this method for storage right in the garden during hard winters.

  • 17 years ago

    A picture of what I walked out on after winter with no work on the garden yet. In about another 3 weeks, this will be completely full, with hardly any work at all...pretty fun stuff..

  • 17 years ago

    Snibb, that looks exactly like the spinach I planted here in AZ this winter. It has looked just like that for about two months now...never gets much bigger, and tougher than a toenail. I think fast growing contributes to its tenderness. Oh well, it still tastes great, even if it is a bit tough.

    Granny

    Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden

  • 17 years ago

    Mine's a little bigger leafed than that, but has a bed of dead leaves under it. And yep, tough as nails, hehe. I'm replanting.

  • 17 years ago

    And I'm going to slink in here like a thief in the night and just say howdy. I have been ashamed to show my garden because NOTHING has grown this winter. Most of it is that we'll have two nice weeks and then an overnight freeze..then a couple more nice weeks and another freeze.

    I never thought I'd need cold frames in south Florida! I guess I should build some this summer when it's too hot to do anything else.

    Howdy, all!!!

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