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19 years ago

Hi

I am planning on starting a SFG next spring and I want to get a head start in planning and building the garden so I can just focus on planting in the spring. I have a few questions:

-The only area of my yard that gets full sun all day is on a slope. So far, I am planning on using concrete interlocking retaining wall to create the garden area. I will probably have to make this wall 3 feet tall on the downhill side. Anyone else gardening on a slope?

-There are a TON of deer in my neighborhood, as we live right near the potomac river. How tall should I make my fencing? I'm hoping that I don't need more than 4 feet, as I don't want to completely irritate my neighbors since I'm putting the garden in my front yard:-)

-Also, I want to fill my garden with Mel's mix before October. Do I need to plant a cover crop over the winter to keep the soil healthy or can it just sit? I was reading through all the messages and see that it is best to let the mix "settle" for best results. I was planning on leaving some space just to continue to compost over the winter and throw my kitchen scraps into the garden as I go. Do you think I could just skip the separate compost pile for now and just start composting right in my empty boxes? (FYI, I want to make my own compost and I'm new to this as well!!!!)

Comments (3)

  • 19 years ago

    The slope issue I will let others address, but you definitely want your boxes on level ground.

    For the deer an 8' tall fence is reliable, shorter fences also work in many cases, but the trick is to deny the deer a safe landing spot. If the deer has no clear landing area this often dissuades them from making the leap. Also, with a 4' fence you will need to keep the plants away from the fence or the deer will just lean over and nibble at whatever is within reach.

    Making the mix in the fall is a good idea. Less work in the spring when you want to get planting. Cover cropping is a great thing to do, but not absolutely necessary.

    Composting right in the garden is fine when there are no plants, but be careful when there are plants. There are many insects that eat rotting food items that will also eat ripe food items on your plants. Burying the scraps in the boxes will be preferable to leaving it on the surface where it is more accessible to insects.

    Have fun!

  • 19 years ago

    Building on a slope: I am doing it on a smaller slope where I lose about 8" over 4 feet. What I did was build a normal 8" 4x4 bed then laid it out. Then with some levels I jacked up the low end until it was level. From there I templated and cut boards to fill in the sloping sides and the bottom. It was a bit of work, but they are level.

    It messes up the calculations for how much mix you will need - but carrots will probably grow great on the 3' deep side! I should get a photo of a local garden here for you - its on the side of a condo complex, but the slope has to be like 45 degrees. Its astounding.

    Deer: I believe you will need at least 7 feet. But the good news is that you can use deer netting which is next to invisible. They apparently don't like the way it feels on the nose and if they can't reach over it they go away. The most obvious part are the support poles, but you can hang flags from them - if they complain about it, you can always insinuate they are not patriotic...

    I agree with justaguy2 on the clear landing. I know someone with a very small fence, but its a very small area and the deer won't jump into the clutter.

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks for responding

    I appreciate the composting tips. From what I gather sounds like at least this year I can compost in my boxes, but I will start a separate compost pile once is gets closer to spring.

    That is good to know about the invisible deer netting. My husband is not too thrilled about the garden in the front either, but I think it will be better than having useless grass.

    I was already planning on doing carrots and anything else that needs the depth on the deep side-luckily I cannot eat enough carrots! I am planning on backfilling the deep side a bit so that I don't put the expensive soil where it won't be used.

    Any other suggestions are appreciated.

    webchmura, I would love to see that condo complex, what a great use of space!!!

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