I will try to take some pictures if nobody can make sense of my post. I haven't focused much on palms before, making my trees woody trees that is the focus of my gardening attention. I will try to get some palm images taken soon.

I can't understand your point but, you cannot grow palm seedlings in the ground where you are. They will need to be much larger.

I read your other post answering my question.

Nothing great to post, but my seedlings from seed were doing great, until my mom's cats saw them. They were up high, but not high enough I guess.

I did a websearch and it is the Rhapido- ? hysterix, something or another, that is -20F hardy. Surely it is not hardy until it is several years old, though. As far as the Needle palm having 2 types of foliage, it is either the needle palm or the Sabal minor. I think I may have a couple survivors of the Rhapido-hysterix. I need time to see if it does okay.

Okay, I have my palms in order, so to speak. The one I have near the house is, the trunkless Dwarf Palmetto, or Needle palm. I will be getting a Windmill palm, which HAS a trunk, when I build a bed for it, near the house, where I can plug lights in, and cover it. The Needle palm is already planted near a plug. We are having a new dog fence put in. Once it is already installed I can make my bed for the Trachy or Windmill palm, outside the fence, close to the house, but away enough so it can grow away from the utility wires on the house, but be plugged in.