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FYI New rules for backyard water gardens

15 years ago

Got this in email today and thought I'd pass it along to everyone here. This sort of thing has been discussed here before.

I do not know the person who wrote it.

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Go to: http://www.wfaa.com/news/gardening-114250684.html

Or go to www.WFAA.com and click the topic "New rules for backyard water gardens" and view an excerpt from the 2.5 hour program we attended last night.

From here on is content and my research about the meeting on 1/19/2011 [if you want links, scroll to them and read for yourself]:

The TX Parks & Wildlife (TPWD) chairman, Ken K. was there. He really never addressed any of the issues brought up, but quietly let everyone that wanted to speak have 5 minutes. Dennis spoke and I spoke and so did about 20 other people. About 40-50 people were there from all over the metro area.


Our opinion is that this was merely a lip service and they have no intention of changing what they are doing. Two armed game wardens were there, I guess, in case we "got out of hand".

You cannot have any plant in your pond nor dry lands that is not on their white list. The aquarium clubs were the most outspoken because their water gardens are all indoors and they cannot breed rare fish if they cannot duplicate the plants from the fish habitats.

TPWD said that beginning May 1st, they will start "enforcing" these plant rules. They tried to avoid that subject by saying they were not going after the homeowners as much as the sellers of plants. However, they handed us the legislative rules and it's in there that there are penalties for possession of these plants.

Someone directed a very real comment at Mr. Ken: How can you enforce a White list with hundreds of plants on it when you have never been able to enforce the Black list that has been there for years. He never answered!

The group pointed out inconsistencies in TPWD decisions that were made by a committee that has no experts about plants. There was a botanist there and he offered his services to be on the committee. He has personally worked with water plants for more than 15 years before he got his degree in botany and has been a botanist for more than 5 years.

They made each attendee fill out a sheet of paper with our name, address, phone number and why we were there. Now we are all a target for their investigations in the future.

Nobody there came away with any positive feelings about the way TPWD would handle our comments and concerns nor did he answer but about two questions all night.

The final vote of the commission for the plant list is at TPWD in Austin January 27th and then the list will be sent out. If a plant is not on the White list, you cannot have it. Ken did say you can submit a request that they evaluate your plant, but that can take months. If you grow exotics, you can make application for special permission but the application cost between $263 and $500 to submit! See these definitions in the Legislative info:

(1) "Approved list" means the list published by the department under Subsection (b)(2) of exotic aquatic plants that a person may import into or possess in this state without an exotic species permit issued by the department.

(2) "Exotic aquatic plant" means a nonindigenous aquatic plant that is not normally found in aquatic or riparian areas of this state.

When the public finally gets more news about this sneaky legislation, they are going to be very mad. If you grow any of the plants on land that can be aquatic and are not on the white list, you are in violation and subject to a fine. When I spoke, I directed my questions at Mr. Ken about how TPWD is going to help us identify species of our plants and how TPWD is going to inform the homeowners that have these plants in their yards on dry land. I asked if they were going to send notice to all property owners in the state. I said that I choose to obey the law, whether or not I am discovered I do not like feeling like I am a criminall with my plants. He never responded to my comments.

The pond owners said after the meeting that they are NOT going to have their ponds on tour this year because they do not want TPWD officials having a free invitation to investigate their plants in and around their ponds.

We shall see what happens. I wonder how the public felt after the newscast last night on channel 8. (We can be seen in one of the photos.)

Since last night, I went to the TPWD site and clicked on penalties and it sends you to a link for the TX Legislature and I read through the whole thing till I came to penalties for invasive plants. It does not quote a fine but aquatic plants comes under 66.007 and it says it is a Class B misdemeanor. See this link:

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PW/htm/PW.66.htm [(b) A person who violates Section 66.003, 66.004, 66.005, 66.006(c), 66.007, 66.009, 66.015, 66.021, or 66.0091 of this code commits an offense that is a Class B Parks and Wildlife Code misdemeanor.)

We will keep you posted on the results. The White list was last updated 1/11/2011 and can be viewed at:

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/species/exotic/aquatic_plants/proposed_list.phtml

End of Email

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I did a quick check of Ineligible Species List, even though I do not have a water garden... lo and behold I found that

Ruellia brittoniana Blue bell, Mexican petunia, Britton's wild petunia is forbidden. I don't have any.. but I did at the old house. I know lots of people here grow it. Does this mean someone's going to jail?? :)

I understand the reasons behind forbidding certain plants but I also know this can lead to a whole lot of other landscape plants being forbidden.

Comments (11)

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I hadn't heard this. Thanks for the link. Very interesting.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    They do seem to go overboard a bit here and it seems kind of sudden since we hadn't even heard of it. There are two locally owned nurseries that have significant investments in the water garden business that would be affected by this.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    This country is so into an over abundance of laws in all areas of modern life. It is becoming impossible to be a law abiding person. We can't keep track of them all. I just learned that it was $150 fine for not turning ones brights off accidently.

    This concept of changing to a white list was supposed to be for nurseries shipping in and out between Canada and the USA. All natives were not on the white list. So there was to be no trade of native between countries. What was weird about that white list was that Whole plant families were Xed off of the White list for no reason at all and only 12th of known plants were on it. It had only the normal trade type plants and nothing very unusual. I took Sally Waszowskis book on gardening with Texas natives and over 2/3 of the plants mentioned were not on the list. I looked and many invasives were on the list. It was crazy. I am amazed that this concept of White list versus Blacklist is becoming the norm. One gets lost in the detail and can not focus on the true problem plants. I am really concerned that I won't be allowed to grow my natives. It was not originally to be turned on the populous but be a import export vehicle. A way to control the professional growers. I agree, it seems so arbitrary , so draconian and unenforceable. We are now all possible criminals. Guilty till proven innocent.

    That Ruella (chi Chi ) is a monster. I got hit in the I eye by some seeds. I won't be sad to see that one go. Some plants should have warning labels.

    The fact that we make plants illegal that are inhabitants of this world shows how nuts we have gotten.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Looks like the "white list" is on hold, at least for now.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Effort by Legislature to stop invasive plants shrivels

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Not taking sides on this, but one thing is certain......there are some aquatic plants, and some of the worst are aquarium plants, that if allowed to enter the ecosystem, can be disastrous.

    So, my take is......be careful what you use in your water gardens, as you can harm the environment, if you get carried away with plants that are not environmentally friendly.

    The Mediterranean, currently has a large dead zone, because of some aquarium plants that got into the ecosystem, there.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Mexican Ruellia is going to be nearly impossible to eradicate from Texas it's everywhere. People dumping aquariums into water ways has been a disaster a lot of places. It sucks when a few stupid people ruin it for everyone else.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Definitely there are problems with invasive plants. Purple Loostrife has taken over so much marshland in New England that it is now illegal to even possess the seeds in those states. When seen blooming in large spaces it is quite beautiful, but it has done a lot of damage to the delicate balance there.

    The beautiful rosa rugosa is also classified as an invasive non-native in New England even though it's been there since the first colonists arrived.

    Don't know why you would want to eradicate Ruellia from Texas since around here it grows where nothing else does. I have several different ones in my yard precisely because they do spread. It's one of my favorite plants in the garden. In spring I especially enjoy seeing the wild ones that grow on vacant land at the end of my street. The Bluebonnets still grow up through them and so do all the native weeds.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I think the key to this entire "problem" is just simply to be a responsible gardener so that each of us can grow the things we love to grow.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    The white list seems to be tabled for now. I got an email from my water garden society saying "Senator Hegar called on TPWD to forego any further work and cease implementation of this effort" because he saw that it was too broad and wasn't enforceable.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I think there should be prohibited plants. I think that a black list focuses on the problems and is enforceable.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I'm not going to argue with anyone again, but I have taken classes, researched and studied Invasive Plants and the effect they have on our native plants for quite some time. I'm not a native plant nut, but I do care about our environment. So I'm not going to say anything FURTHER regarding invasives. However, you might want to check out the following websites with some information regarding invasive plants and why they are classified as invasives and the damage that they do. I truly believe that our "law makers" do have the best intentions when it comes to our environment.

    http://www.texasinvasives.org/i101/

    http://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/SpeciesList.aspx?Group=Plants

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/gardening/top10/5116600.html

    http://rockportherbies.blogspot.com/2010/06/halt-aquatic-invasive-species.html

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