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16 years ago

I had my fence redone. Was a chain link fence and now it is wood using the old metal posts. so on the outside on one side of the house, you see the ugly posts. I was thinking, in an effort to hide the ugly posts, of putting up wooden lattic (which would be the same color as the fencing) and then using an annual vine. I was thinking annual so it wouldn't get out of bounds as this side is on a street and I don't want to do much maintenance there. I realize this means for part of the year it will still be a tad unsightly -- it's a trade-off. Now the bed on the INSIDE of the fence gets watered regularly so it would be watered, but it happens to face due west. Would get little sun until the afternoon and then, during the summer, it would get blazing scorching sun. There is a cedar tree in the middle so part would be protected somewhat, but late in the afternoon as the sun moves down, it will all get that blazing sun. Soooooo. . . I have no idea what to use. Something easy to start from seeds and perhaps reseeded itself -- but not too vigorously, would be ideal. I prefer blooms, of course.

Any ideas? The soil is not the greatest, but it would get some "run-off" of amendments and such. Sort of a "red-headed step-child" kind of space in my yard, and has been on the back burner for a bit, but I'm ready to start looking into what I can do to cheer it up. Because it is on the street (not the front of the house, though) it would be nice to see something pretty there, but I do most of my "gardening" -- what little I can do right now, due to health reasons -- in my back yard.

Didn't mean to write a novel, but it's such a strange spot and it needs to be almost self-sufficient. I don't know much about vines. Only have a couple in my entire yard and they just got added this past year. I know there's quite a few of you that are vine fanatics -- so you are the people to ask.

Oh and I just got four new rose bushes from A.R.E. -- gawd, I love that place.

Thanks,

wilo

"there's always room for roses"

Comments (18)

  • 16 years ago

    I see you are in zone 8. I am 7b /8a.

    I LOVE this vine

    Blue Dawn aka periennial morning glory.

    It returns from roots, not seeds. Dies to the ground after 1st hard freeze. It BLOOMS ALL DAY and the leaves are much larger and more lush than the other MGs. You can read all about it if you do a search. Sorry, I could not post the link here

  • 16 years ago

    Does it seed like the other morning glories, Cynthia???

  • 16 years ago

    Hi Wilo, hope all is better with you. I have so many mg seeds, if you decide you want to go that way. Let me know and we can meet or I can send them. Do you still have my email?
    jolana

  • 16 years ago

    I have never planted the vine mentioned, but just googled it and the one I read said it is somewhere between Kudzu and morning glory...one of the few that can compete with honeysuckle and trumpet vine....sounds VERY dangerous to me.

  • 16 years ago

    Ginny, I've heard that about it also. Here in S.W. Texas my friend Linda M. calls perennial morning glory the vine from hell (it's actually from South America :-) and she refused to give it to me.

    She says it has spread like crazy all over trees and bushes on her 12 acre property near Seguin and she has given up the hope of ever getting rid of it. She also tells a story about how it traveled down fences in rocky soil of NW San Antonio until it just about took over a neighborhood.

    Cynthia, it sounds beautiful the way you describe it and most people give a very favorable rating on the site that starts with a 'D' but there are a couple of negatives and neutrals from warm climates like Florida and California, so I dunno'. It is probably more mannerly in the northern part of the state and in other parts of the country.

    Wilo, since the area is well watered an annual vine that comes to mind is Hyacinth bean vine. Or instead of a vine what about putting tall narrow shrub at each post.

    Click on "Web" at the top left to read about Hyacinth bean vine.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Hyacinth bean vine Google images

  • 16 years ago

    The narrow shrub is a great idea, or annuals until a evergreen vine/s (crossvine) get going.

    My MG seeds aren't the wild bindweed, lol

  • 16 years ago

    Jolana, I don't seem to have your email address any more. I'd love seeds.

    Where can I get Hyacinth Bean Vine seeds?

    Thanks everyone!

  • 16 years ago

    I just sent you a mail

  • 16 years ago

    Oh My Rosalee! That sounds dreadful! Maybe our winters have kept mine to a reasonable size. It is still pretty aggressive. I've had it through 2 winters with success and am really hoping that this cold winter doesn't kill it dead. Maybe in areas where you don't get a hard freeze it can eat acres. I also have a driveway and street on 2 sides, so that may keep mine manageable...grins.

    I have another suggestion for beauty, interesting foliage and flowers.

    This is the abutilon Red Tiger. It's hardy to zone 8. It is easy to grow from cuttings. I mean as easy as coleus is to grow from cuttings. It's happy in part sun. It grows in ground and in pots. It blooms spring to fall and would look pretty in front of a fence. I bring pots in for winter. Testing one very large one in a pot outside.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Red Tiger

  • 16 years ago

    Could someone give me guidance on hyacinth bean vine? I have loads of part sun and I've never had success. I mean fierce afternoon sun in places, west sun in places, tried 2-3 times and never had success. What do they really want? I see them and love them

    c

  • 16 years ago

    Wilo, I haven't been saving the hyacinth bean vine seeds or I'd be glad to send some to you. For years they volunteered themselves around, but they didn't come back after one of those extremely dry summers so I'll be looking for some more seeds myself. Hmmm ... I just might have some in one of those dozens of brown paper bags with seeds I never get around to planting. Anyway, they can be found on seed racks.

    Here is one that volunteered around a bougainvillea:

    Wow Cynthia -- that Red tiger abutilon is simply gorgeous! Thanks for showing it to us. I wish I could give you some tips on what hyacinth bean vines need. They've just always been easy to grow here I can't really say. Hopefully someone else can offer some ideas. Or just keep trying. They are worth it.

    BTW, I happened to see hyacinth bean vine seeds offered here when I was looking for green Malabar spinach seeds.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Four different kinds of hyacinth bean vines

  • 16 years ago

    I looked through all my seeds and didn't find any :-( So unless someone offers to give us some :-) in the next couple of days I'm going to order them when I order the green Malabar spinach.

  • 16 years ago

    I would just love some hyacinth bean vine seeds to try. Do I need to send you a sase?

  • 16 years ago

    Cynthia, mine actually bloomed the best in full, baking afternoon sun! I've had shady gardens since and just don't get as many blooms. I like to start the seeds in small pots and plant out in late April or May in an amended bed.

    Wilo and Roselee, I sent emails to both of you.

    Pam

  • 16 years ago

    There are also yellow and red flowering hyacinth bean vines out there if you want to add a "horse of a different color". Also, suggest white, red, and/or pink cypress vine, and red Cardinal Flower, or try your hand at growing some gourds. They love the heat and have pretty flowers at the same time.

    Susan, who would love to have more full sun spots in her garden.....sigh

  • 16 years ago

    Susan
    I left you a message on the other vine thread...
    Your butterfly garden sounds fabulous. Would you tell me how you do the bananas? Do you squeeze them in the suet feeder with peels on? How long do they last? I already told my husband that I am going to try this when the butterflies return. Thank you for any tips.

    cynthia

  • 16 years ago

    Hi, Cynthia. I apologize for the delay in responding.

    I take a couple of peels from the banana to expose the fruit, using black or almost black bananas - soft and mushy at the very least LOL - then I just pop them, peels and all, in the suet feeder. The butterflies can get inside the suet feeder, so no need to worry about whether there is enough of the flesh exposed.

    You can generally use whatever overript fruit you have, watermelon, apple, pear, peach, etc. One day I forgot and left the bag of bananas on the porch, and when I remembered it, I picked it up to get the bananas out, and several Hackberry Emperors flew out of the bag. They had even crawled inside of it to get to the fruit! I also had a cute little Nessus sphinx moth crawl inside to get some of that yummy fruit nectar!

    Very simple. I just hang the feeder up in close proximity to the hummer feeder cuz the hummers love to eat the fruit flies that are attracted to the bananas. So, it is a dual purpose feeder.

    I get my overripe bananas at Homeland supermarket when they put out bags of them late in the week, and also have a neighbor who brings me hers that they don't eat after they get too ripe.

    Susan

  • 16 years ago

    Thanks Susan
    What great tips and ideas. I can't wait to try this when it warms a bit.

    c

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