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First Frost 2008???

17 years ago

First Frost!

Two nights ago (Aug 24th) there was a light but widespread frost across northern Wisconsin. Rhinelander, Merril, Land of Lakes, & Minong had 31-32 F. One report at Gordon read 26 F.!

At my place it was right at the freezing point. My main garden & tomatoes were not damaged, but a few feet away and slightly downslope where my cukes and winter squash were growing they were killed!

This is the 3rd time in the past 5 years we have had a killing frost in late Aug or very early Sept. This is the exact OPPOSITE of what you'd think would be happening with so-called "global warming" if the dire predictions are to believed.

Shouldn't the growing season be getting longer by several days and NOT shorter????

Comments (9)

  • 17 years ago

    Global warming does not predict that WI will soon have Florida weather. What is generally predicted and confirmed by data is a global warming trend caused by human action that will produce alterations in historical weather patterns and increased weather intensity. So, an unusual burst of cold air in Wisconsin does not mean global-warming is bunk.

    In the end, a single weather event is just that, one event. It is neither sufficient by itself to prove or disprove global-warming. Instead, all of the available evidence must considered. The overwhelming conclusion of scientists who have taken this broad look at all of the evidence agree that global warming is real.

  • 17 years ago

    On a personal level, if it's called global WARMING and I'm getting earlier frosts then normal then it is BUNK. Afterall, they are warning that our forests up here will vanish due to the increased heat, etc. Only it's not warming! It's cooling!

    Based on 1st hand experience, g.w. is bunk...

  • 17 years ago

    I agree with you that there's nothing to global warming, but then I take God's Word for that since he has promised that as long as the earth stands, seedtime and harvest will remain unchanged.

  • 17 years ago

    Mercer got hit with frost too. awful spring, dry summer, youd think we'd deserve a little nice weather before the snow.

  • 17 years ago

    Wow. This post is scary.

  • 17 years ago


    I don't believe the global warming alarmists Al Gore, et al. Here is a recent report on the so-called ice caps melting :

    Sep 17, 2008
    Is This The Beginning of Global Cooling
    By Allan MacRae

    Many scary stories have been written about the dangers of catastrophic global warming, allegedly due to increased atmospheric concentrations of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide (CO2) from the combustion of fossil fuels. But is the world really catastrophically warming? NO. And is the warming primarily caused by humans? NO.

    Since just January 2007, the world has cooled so much that ALL the global warming over the past three decades has disappeared! This is confirmed by a plot of actual global average temperatures from the best available source, weather satellite data that shows there has been NO net global warming since the satellites were first launched in 1979.


    See larger image here. Go to link for graph: http://icecap.us/

    Since there was global cooling from ~1940 to ~1979, this means there has been no net warming since ~1940, in spite of an ~800% increase in human emissions of carbon dioxide. This indicates that the recent warming trend was natural, and CO2 is an insignificant driver of global warming.

    Furthermore, the best fit polynomial shows a strong declining trend. Are we seeing the beginning of a natural cooling cycle? YES. Further cooling, with upward and downward variability, is expected because the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) has returned to its cool phase, as announced by NASA this year.

    Global warming and cooling have closely followed the phases of the PDO. The most significant pattern of PDO behavior is a shift between "warm" and "cool" phases that last 20 to 30 years. In 1905, the PDO shifted to its "warm" phase. In 1946, the PDO changed to its "cool" phase. In 1977, the PDO returned to its "warm" phase and produced the current warming. In 2007-8, the PDO turned cold again, so we can expect several decades of naturally-caused global cooling.

    Some scientists are predicting that this cooling will be severe, and is a greater threat to humanity than global warming ever was. Meanwhile, politicians are still obsessing about global warming.

  • 17 years ago

    I am no scientist and I have no desire to be a politician. Whether the climate on our planet is warming or cooling or doing something else it makes no difference what happens in any one person's garden in any given year.

    This is not the proper forum for a climate change debate as most folks here are not prepared for it.

    I could make the case that the earth is warming or cooling or doing something inbetween and the end result is the same. This isn't a forum for that discussion.

  • 17 years ago

    I think the 'Hot Topics' forum would be the right place to discuss it. :))

    Kat

  • 17 years ago

    There have always been abberations in the weather. Read about the Year Without A Summer 1816. Interesting.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Year Without A summer

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