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HOSP take over Bluebird Nestbox!! $%$#@!

14 years ago

If you've followed my posts, you would know that about 2 weeks ago my bluebirds began laying eggs when something destroyed them.

HOSP and TRES were the possibilities. I decided it was HOSP.

Today, I saw small birds on the box. I automatically thought..is that HOSP??

Waiting for more eggs to be layed, I approached the box and saw a small bird perched. It flew off and I then knew it was HOSP. Meanwhile, my TRES are sitting on the other box AT THE SAME TIME doing NOTHING! $#*&%!

Visible from the outside, the sparrows built over the bluebird nest and added their tunnel to the nest. The Swallows did NOT attack it. Both the bluebirds and swallows have been in the area. The blues were also fending off a lone rogue swallow and my thinking is that they shifted their focus to the TRES and the HOSP took an opportunity.

It was a matter of time. The blues didn't lay soon enough for me to put my spooker up. Unfortunately I had to remove the nest while I put the Van Ert in. I had to work from 4-9 so I had to have my brother help. He killed the Male HOSP late this evening. The nest is back in the box, but mangled and out of shape.

The main question is...how could the Swallows AND bluebirds allow this to happen?! I'm sure having a mate helped the male HOSP. The TRES seem unconcerned about anything but their nest only. Yet they'll dive at me all day. I'm sure if I were to leave the HOSP would easily be able to ALSO kill the TRES/ take over their box. Of course, the blues are the ones to take the hit!

I saw the Male Bluebird for a brief time, and he was loudly singing. Perhaps he lost his mate?? For all I've seen, she could be alive still too. I was gone 95% of the day. There is one other box un-occupied at this site at my other pair.

So what is the initiative to remove the bluebirds nest when the attempt fails, even though it is intact and useable? I'd hate to waste their time by removing the nest just because of some cosmetic damage.

DO I JUST HAVE AWFUL BLUEBIRDS/SWALLOWS OR SOMETHING? Last season they kept switching boxes and not incubating and it wasn't until June or July that they finally hatched and fledged babies. 3.

It seems like every spring I suffer some setback that results in less fledgings, delayed nesting, etc. This despite me doing ALMOST EVERYTHING right and I just about have the war against HOSP won over here. It will never end though, I know. So I've done my job, but my natives AREN'T!

I want to hear from those with experience with a takeover in this stage of nesting. Do you think the bluebirds will return and nest in this box again? the Male HOSP is history. I wish I could have been the one to take him out! I was SO MAD! I wanted to snap that birds neck the second I found out about this!! I've crippled their population around here, and yet somehow 1 pair manages to take over ONE nestbox with Bluebirds AND Swallows in the area all day.

~ A troubled Tim ~

Comments (2)

  • 14 years ago

    Sorry to hear this Tim. If I were you I would remove the HOSP nest and hope the blues return. I doubt you will get the female HOSP now that the male has left.

    In my experience with TRES I see them highly motivated to run off any bird in paired boxes when they are nest building. Once they are laying/incubating and feeding nestlings they focus much more on that then defending the other box. I have lots of paired boxes and that is what I have found anyway.

    As far as the Blues letting the HOSP take over the box...well they know they cannot win I suppose, no eggs or nestlings to defend so it is hard to say. I think each bluebird is different too on how hard they defend things. This year I have a hugely territorial male, never had one like this before. He has chased off my chickadees and is trying to chase off all the Tree Swallows in the yard. He is defending four nestboxes, two of these are 65 yards or so from the box they have eggs in. Nothing will be nesting in the box paired 35 feet from the blues nestbox...he won't allow it. The chickadees weren't even house hunting, just trying to eat out of the birdfeeders and he won't allow it. A couple times I have seen a HOSP come to the feeder and I quickly try to get the bb gun but the Male bluebirds chases it away before I can even think about it. He won't stop chasing until it is out of the yard too. I am curious to see if he calms down a bit once the eggs hatch which should be next week.

    Good luck to you, hope your blues can get down to business now that that HOSP is gone.

    Donna

  • 14 years ago

    What works for me is having a place for the HOSP to claim. I have a Martin house up (no Martins though), and I let the HOSP settle into that before trapping them. So far it has made them leave all the other boxes alone (Bluebirds and TRES nest in the other boxes). I have never seen the TRES around here attack the HOSP. I wonder if you put up a box that would be attractive to the HOSP and use it strictly as a trapping box if that would help? Sadly, the battle with the HOSP is endless. Once you dispatch them, more just show up.

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