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should i use cement board?

17 years ago

I have removed old linoleum, laid cement board down and now getting ready to tile a bathroom. It is an older home (1950s) and there is hardwood thoughout. The transition from the hardwood floors in the hallway to the bathroom tile is going to be about 3/4" when all said and done. I know this is fairly typical, but now that I am looking at it, I am wondering if I needed the cement board after all? It would be much nicer to not have such a large transition up.

The joists are at 16" and the subfloor is 3/4" plus the hardwood over that which is about 3/4", so that makes a subfloor of 1-1/2". I have read that if the subfloor is 1-1/8", you don't need cement board. Is this recommended?

I know I already have the cement board down, but I want to have a end result that I am pleased with, so I am willing to take a few steps back if necessary.

So, is it acceptable to tile right over the hardwood (the floor was smooth and level before I installed the cement board)? If yes, then is having a 3/4" transition something to try and avoid? I have 2 small children...would they tend to trip? Is removing cement board worth the trouble?

Thanks!

Comments (7)

  • PRO
    17 years ago

    Removing the CBU can be a pain....particularly if you installed it over a thinset morter, as is recommended by the manufacturer....you DID set it in morter, right? Oh, you didn't, eh? Well, then you just have to pull up the screws, I guess. Tiling over CBU is FAR preferable to just going over wood. You said "Hardwood." What exactly is it? Plywood? If so, yes it can be done. I've done it numerous times~~~but you better have the proper morter and know what you're doing.

    Truthfully, the transition isn't that big an issue. There are marble thresholds and wood reducer strips to transition the height difference.

  • 17 years ago

    as is recommended by the manufacturer

    REQUIRED.

  • 17 years ago

    I did use mortar with the board. So you think that will be a pain? Hmmm. I was leaning towards tearing it out, but now back to re-thinking.

    I don't know what the wood is exactly, but I don't *think* it is plywood. I do know it is planks of wood about 3-1/4" wide and 3/4" thick. This layer is nailed onto the subfloor, which is also 3/4" thick.

    The mortar I have been using is Mapei Keraset. Hopefully, that's a good one because that's what the store recommended!

    I do have a solid oak threshold that will work, it's just asthetics, I guess, with such a noticeable difference in height.

  • 17 years ago

    Okay-- a couple of things, some good, some not so good.

    First, the Keraset is fine for bedding the cement board. You don't want it adhering to the wood subfloor. However, if you're going to set yout tile with it, you're going to need Keralastic to mix it with, not water.

    Secondly, cement board should not be set directly over boards. It should be set over plywood, meaning not only should the cement board come out, but the board flooring under it should, as well. Once that's out, 3/8" plywood and then 1/4" cement board goes in and then you can tile, and the tile should end up about 3/8" over the top of the hardwood. A marble threshold will take care of the transition. You CAN go with what you have, but you'd be taking a huge chance that it'd fail.

  • PRO
    17 years ago

    Bill....You KNOW he didn't want to hear that..........LOL

  • 17 years ago

    Yikes! Nope...she didn't want to hear that! But we'll do what we have to do to get it right. Luckily, it's only a 5x7 bathroom.

    Is there a different product you'd recommend for setting the tile, other than the Keraset with Keralastic?

  • 17 years ago

    When you put it back together, consider using Ditra instead of cement board. WAY easier to use, and it only takes up 1/8".