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Just getting started...opinion on plan

18 years ago

would like opinions on our plan...we just bought a lot at the lake and if can fit the house and septic in the space we hope to begin building next month

Here is a link that might be useful: lake house

Comments (13)

  • 18 years ago

    MBR closet is much too small and holds little. It measures just over five foot across. You need seven foot to hang clothes on both sides and get a person in there. Even is you had the seven feet, it would still be too short. Note that the coat closet at the front door is bigger.

    The bed shown in the MBR is only four foot across and five and a half foot long. Don't plan on putting a king in there. The MBR is less than 12 foot wide. That's not very big for a master.

    The rest of the house is fine. If I stared at it for awhile, I might find some other stuff, but nothing jumps out at me at the moment.

  • 18 years ago

    Well I would have to disagree and say that you could get a king size bed in there no problem. It won't be spacious but it wouldn't be cramped either.
    Personally I would get rid of the 2 story window tower and just have a little bump out instead, maybe with a nice window seat. Somewhere cozy to curl up and enjoy the view. I am sure it would save you a lot in the construction as well. But then maybe you really like it? Then you could also have a balcony across that whole side.

    I would also get rid of the desk in the master closet and have clothes hanging on the longer wall and then some built in shallow dressers opposite. You could also open the master bath to the hall powder room and get rid of the toilet in the master bath to make room for more closet if you have a lot of clothes.

  • 18 years ago

    Is this a weekend/summer home or your primary residence? Will you ever want to sell it as a primary residence? This may change how people judge the plan.

    Our master bedroom is 10'11" x 13'...Only 9'5" x 13' after subtracting our built-in drawer units that take the place of dressers. It's not luxuriously spacious, of course, but we have a queen bed and a chair, and don't feel that crowded. Depends on what you're used to, the priorities for use of sq footage, if you plan to use it as a 'retreat' or just a bedroom, and your budget...and, again, whether or not resale is a big concern.

    If the short wall and the desk/makeup table (?) was removed from the closet area, I think it could be arranged into something useful.

    It is very dangerous to have elements in your plan that aren't to scale, like the bed. You could be very disappointed when trying to fit real furniture in the house later. You'll want to check for that.

    Best wishes!

  • 18 years ago

    We have a king with a dresser on the wall opposite the foot in 15 foot of space. With three foot four inches less to work with, there is no question it would be cramped, especially with a dresser sized in proportion to a king.

    Placing that tiny bed in there was really disingenous of the person who drew that plan.

  • 18 years ago

    I agree, they have drawn in furniture that is not to scale.

    The upper level left study/bedroom does not have a closet. ???

    The MBR closet is too small, but you could always removed vanity and use that entire area as a closet.

    There isn't much storage - anywhere.

    What's with the DR table at that angle? Same with the living room furniture. I don't care how the front entrance dumps directly into the LR either.

    You would never be able to use a decent size table/chairs in the breakfast area w/a door that opens to the outside. You'll need to use sliders.

    I think you need to keep looking. Try to find something without so many angles. You will get space that can be better utilized. I believe it's Chelsea1 who has posted her drawing for a small/square home. Check it out for ideas and go to the Small Houses forum also.

  • 18 years ago

    I love it BUT...

    You have 3 staircases in a less that 2000 sf home?
    what a waste of space.
    I do not get it: Is there a spiral stairway from basement to dining with a hallway around it? Is it that I do not have my glasses on?
    You could go to the basement from inside the house placing the stairs under the one that leads to the second floor and it will be nicer since the start is very centrally located. You will need to shift the stair from garage to basement.
    You could use that area as a sunroom or you could get rid of it.

    Other than that, the floor plan and elevations are nice. It needs a bit of adjustment in the sizes of some areas

  • 18 years ago

    I like the elevations much better than what's inside.

    Yes, what IS going on with all those staircases? If I had a windowed 'tower' overlooking a lake I wouldn't devote it to housing a spiral stair. (The exterior stair is graceful.)

    How would you use the lower level? That's a lot of undedicated space to build.

    I think you can do better than this plan. It feels cramped. There aren't enough rooms with windows on two walls. It wouldn't 'live' airy and spacious.

  • 18 years ago

    I think this was a custom plan done for someone in particular, and the architect has now placed it in his stock plan collection. Nothing else really makes sense.

    After looking at the plan again, I realized that I can't tell where the interior spiral staircase really goes. That area is open to below, so there is no place for the staircase to land. Perhaps it is just a spiral interior tower designed at a lookout point?

    Of more concern is the staircase down into the basement from the garage. It has a door at the bottom, instead of the top, which is the reverse of what's usually done. Moreover, there is no indication that the stairs start at an elevation higher that the garage floor, which they absolutely should do. Gasoline fumes are heavier than air and sink. A gasoline leak in that garage would fill the basement with fumes. The consequences could be disaterous.

  • 18 years ago

    Frog,
    I was confused with the stairs at garage area and I quit figuring it out.
    It appears that the spiral stair post foundation is shown in the basement plan. The stairs (if it is a stair) is just from basement to first floor.

  • 18 years ago

    I wonder why the first floor shows the spiral cut off, while the second floor doesn't? The spiral stairs, if that's what they are, don't go to the basement. That is a crawlspace under that part of the house. The image is upside down, which makes it hard to read, but that is what it says.

    This plan really needs a written description from the designer.

  • 18 years ago

    thanks for all the comments--I can tell this site will be useful! The spiral staircase is out, it leads to no-where and is simply decorative. The master would eliminate the dressing table in the closet and we will close off the space with a pocket door and have three walls for hanging. We are still debating the slider doors vs. french. We are not putting in a basement so the garage stairs are out as well. There will be one internal stair at the foyer going up. Storage will be an issue so we are dedicating part of the bonus area and under the stairs for that. Still dealing with the septic engineer so we will see if any of it happens!

  • 18 years ago

    OK, just one staircase, in the foyer. (Foyer needs to be larger -- cramped.)

    Does the tower go, or get larger to serve some purpose? As is, at 8 X 9, the only use I can imagine is window seats and a round 'library' table. Nice as it looks, the tower and space behind it into the house take up a lot of room.

    Will you swim in this lake? (No convenent bathroom or access to the house from the lake.) Laundry looks too small to me -- maybe enlarge that area and include a shower bath?

    Is it worth building an exterior staircase to a deck with access via only one bedroom?

    Could you see three *larger* bedrooms? (and baths?) These are all quite small.

  • 18 years ago

    Strange plan. What would you use the 'tower' area for? looks too small for a dining room table...A lot of 'hallway' type area consuming sq feet. My take is that the architect just wanted to showcase neat features without much thought about actually living in the house. R.E. French doors...we had an 8'hx12'w opening to our porch in our new house and after much thought went with a slider. There are also normal doors to the porch and you need to consider where the French door will swing. Usually a slider will let you utilize the available space much better.