Software
Houzz Logo Print
staceyneil

Why do the bathroom gods hate us? Setbacks & progress....

15 years ago

Some of you might remember the ridiculously bad luck we had with last year's master bathroom renovation. Well, it seems that whatever bathroom gods we've somehow angered are still mad at us. Either that, or we're just really inept and/or unlucky renovators!!!

We started demolition of my daughter's bathroom (also the main house/hall/guest bathroom) in October. The bathroom was atrocious, with a sadly unsalvageable old cast iron tub that had such wrecked enamel it was literally impossible to clean. it also had a very poor floor plan, where the door swing ate up most of the floor space, requiring a teeny vanity and making the space (5' x 8'3") seem really small and cramped.

This is a VERY low-budget, DIY reno. I have carefully sourced stuff from yard sales, eBay, etc. Total budget is Here is the old floor plan:

Here is the BEFORE bathroom:




So we redesigned the floor plan, moving the door around to the perpendicular wall which really opened up the space, and provided much bigger vanity (a necessity for a teenage girl's myriad bottles and jars and stuff!)

Demo: it sure was fun smashing up the cast iron tub and ripping the tile down :)

We discovered two leaks that had been hidden behind tiled walls, causing rot and mold. Rotten and damaged subfloor :(


We replaced most of the old subfloor, then laid radiant heat wires for a heated floor and poured self-levelling compound (post about that here: http://www.thathomesite.com/forums/load/bath/msg1116262914226.html):

We framed the new door, new blocking in the walls, framed niches, new drywall and cement board, then waterproofed with Hydroban (I LOVE that stuff!!!)

Nest we laid the floor tile and grouted with Laticrete epoxy grout. Aside from the unforeseen leaks and rot which necessitated more framing/subfloor repair than anticipated, things were going okay up to this point.............

Then, I started tiling the walls. It took me about 5 days. On the last day, with only one small area left to do, I came into the bathroom to take a look at the work I'd done the previous day. Oh. My. God. On one wall about 2/3 of the tile were THE WRONG TILE. Same size and shape, but a different color and texture. I shrieked, and ran into the hall to look at the boxes. Sure enough, out of 10 identical-looking boxes of tile, ONE had a slightly different part number. They were close enough that, when installing at night under work lights, I hadn't seen the difference. In daylight: ugh!!! I knew the thinset had cured, but tried popping one off just to be sure: yup, it pulled away the old 50's plaster behind the tile. Not only would the tile need to be removed and replaced, but the plaster wall behind it would need to be skim-coated and repaired first. I was in tears.

Here is the amazing thing... and I will never, ever, say a bad word about Lowes again. I am amazed at this: I had ordered a large order from Lowes including both in-stock and special-order items. They called me when it was ready and had it all on a cart at the front of the store, including these 10 boxes of American Olean Ice White tiles. I dutifully checked the ticket and the boxes to be sure it was the correct tile, but I didn't check each and every box, since they were all identical. So, technically, they could have said, "You signed for this, you accepted it as-is." But they didn't. They realized what had happened and are graciously sending a tile company to come and do the repair. Now THAT is fantastic customer service. Yay, Lowes, huh??? So, it could have been a lot worse. As it is, presumably the tile guys will go a good job and the worst of it is that it will hold up completion of the bathroom by a couple of weeks. Luckily, it's not in the shower area so we can still use the space before they are done.

Meanwhile, I continued grouting the rest of the bathroom. We installed the toilet on Saturday. DH was starting to install the shower valve trims when the second catastrophe occurred: he dropped a heavy part on the brand new tub (that was painstakingly set in a mud bed and waterproofed under the tile: that baby's not coming out!) and chipped a quarter-sized chunk out of the enamel! Never even used the tub yet! And throughout the reno I had been soooooo careful to keep it covered and warn anyone using tools in there how easy-to-chip Americast tubs are.... Argh :( Luckily, there's a chip-repair kit available, and DH has a friend who paints boats for a living who says he can come buff the final coat to try to blend it as well as possible. Still, sheesh. already chipped and the shower's not even commisioned yet!

Some pics of the progress so far, including the niches I made from leftover calacatta tile from the master bath reno last year:



Hopefully I'll have "finished bathroom" photos to post after the holidays....

Comments (8)

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    It looks wonderful! You have bounced back from adversity....the chip kit fix will work great and you have a pro to help you. I LOVE Lowes and had a similar wonderful 'over and above' customer service example from them. I emailed the company from the 'contact us' area of the website with the people's names who helped me and I was told they were recognized at a store employee meeting. That is amazing they are paying for the reinstall! Congratulations. Your last bathroom was beautiful and this one is SUCH a huge improvement over the old bath in this space. Mine is 5 by 8 also so your finished bathroom will really help future Bathroom Forum visitors work with the issue of a full bath in a small space.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Wow! Your space is looking fantastic! I am very impressed/encouraged by your DIY work. I started a powder room / laundry room / pantry remodel less than a week ago. After beginning demo, we also found a leak. I'm glad to hear others have survived the impact a leak has on a DIY (or really any) project. I am sorry that you've run into several problems throughout the process, but I am very glad to hear that you are able to resolve and move on. The materials and workmanship look fantastic in your bathroom and I am excited to see the finished product.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Despite the mishaps, you are making the best of it and your bathroom will come out lovely in the end. No one will know what you went through unless you tell your war stories, lol.

    We found $1,200 worth of rot when they ripped the patio out to do the extension. Our architect is extorting us to the tune of $1,500 to draw an "as built" plan to correct his structural mistakes. We cannot close up the walls on the main level until he does and the building inspector approves the re-draw and comes to our house. It is freaking cold here in NY in Dec and there are 4 of us living in our cold bsmt along with half of our upstairs' belongings(half the heat is on the zone with the main level that is currently without heat). We are worrying about our pipes freezing and our architect says it is "not his concern". The reason we are renovating/extending in Dec is because when we rehired him to do our plans with revisions in July (and paid an additional $1,750 above the original $5k), we did not know he would do the plans so poorly that it would take me 4 long trips to get the town to accept our plans with him sitting on the plans and being slow on each correction. Our house took on some heavy storm damage in the Spring and everyone knew, including the architect, that it would not get through another winter. The only delay on our part was securing the money for the work because if we couldn't, we'd have had to fix the exterior in its current/state size and then re-do half the work when we extended.
    I say all this to tell you that there are some pretty fierce reno gods in every category.
    The only bright sides were we almost fixed our roof and exterior last Fall and it would not have taken on the storm damage, which would not have gotten us $7k from the insurance company, and we'd still be saving up to extend "one day". The storm was the kick in the pants to get us back in the game and move up our timetable. We have great contractors and subs and IKEA ran a big sale on kitchens just when we were ready to order.
    If it were not for the architect, I'd say the gods were shining on us (not counting the almost to be expected rot), but he really has soured the process and made us want to kick his you know what.
    I bet if you speak to anyone here or in the other forums, you will hear similar horror stories (just maybe differing levels of horror, lol). You are not alone!

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    The bath looks like its gorgeous. You didn't do so badly with the reno gods.

    We did a complete gut of our condo and it seemed like for every step forward, there were two steps back; from our granite being cut wrong, to the guy delivering our dining table, falling and chipping three of our wood floor boards, to them installing the wrong granite in the second bath, removing it, and finally after a month getting the right granite installed on the shower curb and then the tile guy as he was putting the two last tiles in, leaned on it and cracked it in half, to our frosted doors in our master bath coming in with dark divets in the glass, to my contractor breaking one of the globes on my dining room fixture, finding out the fixture was discontinued and having to then track down one more globe...I could go on and on but you get the picture.

    We head down to FL tomorrow to see the final. Hopefully, there are no more surprises, but it does give us lots of war stories. I look forward to seeing your final.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    We had a problem with our grout on the bathroom floor. It discoloured after a week or so. My contractor insisted it was just dirty, but we couldn't get it clean no matter what we used. We were delighted that the tiling contractor agreed to redo the whole floor grouting. We have small hexagonal white tiles, so you can imagine all the hard work that was! We were so grateful and the floor now looks fabulous. They used a no seal grout.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Oh wow what an ordeal! First of all, kudos to Lowe's. That's amazing. The vanity looks AMAZING! And using the leftover marble for the niches is genius. It looks so great.

    I can't wait to see it all finished but I'm sorry it's been such a pain along the way.

    If it's any consolation, I've not posted anything about our bathroom lately because it has pretty much slowed to a crawl. Today I finally found a countertop remnant that I liked and found out it's probably four weeks for fabrication and install. The shower glass was supposed to be in a week ago and when I called to check they said the wrong glass was sent so they are waiting for new stuff to come in. The vanity and linen cabinet ... well, I can't even get into it without feeling sick to my stomach, but they are holding up the whole thing because don't exactly fit correctly (this, by the way, is an understatement).

    Great job on yours! I bet your daughter (who I presume is the one wearing the safety slippers in the demo photo) is really excited to have her bathroom back.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Nice work, Stacey, especially that niche!! You've learned well, grasshopper! :-)

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Pretty counter! What is it? Hope the rest of the remodel goes more smoothly. Hats off to Lowes!