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Replacing a Bertazzoni 36' Range - with what?

14 years ago

Hi

We have a Bertazzoni 36" six-burner all gas range. I'm not happy with it, the most notable reason being that the gas oven does not work well for baking.

Here are the things I care about:

* 36" to make replacement easy.

* dual-fuel

* even baking - in my old oven, I could cook two trays of cookies at a time. With the Berta, I can only do one and it requires constant oversight and rotating of the tray

* quiet when oven is on - the Berta is noisy!

* quicker heat-up on the oven - it can take 20 minutes for the Berta

* Stainless

* 6 burners would be great, not a must

What I DON'T care about:

* specific BTUs on the burners - I can make what comes work

* easy cleaning if the rest of it is great!

Thanks for any advice.

Comments (11)

  • 14 years ago

    What is your budget?

  • 14 years ago

    Baking in any gas oven is kind of tricky. Electric ovens are much better suited to this task. Maybe instead of buying a new expensive range, you should look into getting a second electric oven somewhere in your kitchen.

    If that option is not viable, we will need to know your budget as posted above to help you more.

  • 14 years ago

    There are apparently two different Bertazzonni gas oven models depending on the oven burner configurations. Do you have the always on adjustable valve burner like that of a rangetop or the thermostat controlled on and off style?

  • 14 years ago

    What range did you have before that you liked?

  • 14 years ago

    Hi,
    We had a 30" Kitchenaid before.
    We don't have room for a electric wall oven
    Budget is flexible, we can go $2-8K.

    (Also, don't know about the type of Berta gas, are you suggesting that makes a difference in baking in a gas oven..?)

  • 14 years ago

    I can only guess that the Kitchenaid must have been a dual-fuel with a convection oven? Convection is the only way I can see that you would be able to cook two trays of cookies at one time and have them cook evenly. I don't think you'll ever match the baking results from an electric convection oven with gas, so you should look for the best convection you can get in a dual-fuel range, IMO.

    Do you like the gas burners better on the Bertazzoni than you did the Kitchenaid burners?

    If your only complaint about the Bertazzoni is the oven, then you could switch to the 36" Professional Series with an electric convection oven. The Bertazzoni does seem to have nice burners.

    On the other hand, if you loved your Kitchenaid and just wanted it to have six burners, you could go with Kitchenaid's model KDRS467VSS, which is a commercial style dual-fuel range with what they call "Even-Heat" True Convection. You can see the specs at the link below.

    I don't have personal experience with either of them, but maybe someone else here does.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Kitchenaid Dual-Fuel Range Specs

  • 14 years ago

    IMO The Wolf oven is the best you are going to find in a dual fuel. Wolf won the JD Powers Cooktop/Ovens/Ranges category for second straight year. Although this survey does not include smaller niche brands favored here at GW it is still noteworthy.

    CR only rated two 36" df ranges,thermador and viking.They did not like either very much.But they rated several 30" dual-fuel.KA came out on top and Wolf #2.

    Not alot of big fans of KA here on GW. They had problems with their self-clean feature and although it seems to have gotten better it does not seem fully resolved.On JD Power KA came in 9th but above industry average.

    Wolf overall has a very good reputation for quality and reliablity of their ranges and electric ovens. But not cheap. About $8500 for 36" DF with 6 burners.

    The cheapest would be the Smeg Opera with true European convection and air cooled door at $2k. It does have a small oven though. Made by Berta.

    If you are spending more that the ~5k for a KA or the Berta Pro mentioned above might as well get the Wolf.

    Unless you are willing to wait a while.

    Unconfirmed rumor has a Capital Culinarian Dual-Fuel coming sometime in 2012.

  • 14 years ago

    I heard the duel fuel would start in the precision line not the CC. I would avoid the Precision as the burner caps are so huge most of the flame goes around the outside of the pot. Wolf is definately the best oven, but slightly over budget. Berta does make a duel fuel convection range for around $5000.

  • 14 years ago

    Just wanted to second the Wolf suggestion. Trying to choose a pro range myself--I cook a lot but don't bake much--but I keep hearing salespeople and Wolf owners rave about the baking capabilities of the Wolf DF. Apparently, you can bake 3 sheets of cookies simultaneously without turning or fussing with them, and they all come out perfectly baked.

    Don't know wether maybe someone with personal experience can confirm this.

    Yesterday, I spoke to someone who recently did a bunch of baking in Thermador and Wolf, for the sake of comparison, and she said Wolf was hands down superior.

  • 14 years ago

    take a look at the Fratelli-onofri 36" 5 Burner dual fuel,
    approx $2400.00

  • 14 years ago

    Walked into my local Wolf dealer today. They are running a promotion that allows small discounts off of UMRP.

    Wolf Dual Fuel w/six burners is $7999. If same in OP's area then within budget! LOL

    Caddidaddy55,

    Even if dual-fuel is introduced in Precision first that does not mean a Culinarian DF will not be introduced in 2012.

    Same box. Electric oven components that fit into Precision will fit Culinarian.