I have a integrated soap dispenser in my current kitchen, and I first I did like it, but after a while I didn't bother refilling it anymore. It is a bit of a pain to refill because I have to reach under the sink to get to it. The bottle is not very big in my case so maybe if it laster longer between refills, I wouldn't have become so lazy!

i just posted a message about my nevermt.....for me, totally worth it. i feel like my family is CONSTANTLY washing there hands. i have my never mt hooked up to a gigantic refill bottle of softsoap and after three months of use, i still have about 1/3 of a bottle left. i like that i don't have to refill the small bottle all the time. plus the clutter issue is great....

that being said, i just had to take my nevermt out and "clean" because there was some sort of block. if that starts to happen on a regular basis, it won't be worth it. but i have only had to clean it once in about four months.

i'm all for the nevermt!!!! of all the things in my new kitchen, that little $10 item really makes my day!!!! ironic!!!

I knew I could depend on you guys for honest feedback. I'm undecided on this one so please keep the opinions coming!

I thought that I would get an NeverMT for my built in soap dispenser, but it is easy to fill as I just have to remove the top and fill from above.

OK... how does a NeverMT differ from a built in soap dispenser? My plan is to have a 36" sink base with a large single bowl sink with the drain to the side, a batch feed disposal, and also wanted a pull out trash on the other side under the same sink base. Will one of these things fit ?

A never MT just allows you to put the tube of the soap dispenser into a size soap dispenser container you have. It does not come with it's own dispenser like a regular soap dispenser. There are two types of soap dispensers too:
1. Allows you to refill from the top
2. Allows you to refill from the bottom side under the sink only.

I don't have a soap dispenser but I will be ordering a KWC that allows you to refill from the top.

Good luck!

good point homepro....my soap dispenser would fill from the bottom so the nevermt is great. maybe if i had one i could fill from the top, it wouldn't be as appealing. although i still like using my sam's club size refill bottle!

I guess your real question is whether it's worth it to get a built-in soap dispenser. All the NeverMT does is make using your soap dispenser more efficient because you have to fill it much, much less often. It's a very inexpensive gadget and very helpful, so if you do get a soap dispenser, getting a NeverMT to go with it is a no-brainer. I can't imagine any reason not to.

Now the question of whether to get a soap dispenser at all is a good one. Many people don't mind having a soap bottle on the counter or having to get it from under the sink. If that describes you, you probably don't need to get a soap dispenser at all. Getting one does incur the cost of the dispenser itself and the cost of getting the hole drilled in your countertop. Once you have it, you're kind of stuck with it, unless you replace it with another gadget to take up the hole.

I love having the soap dispenser at my prep sink in my island. I have hand soap in that dispenser, and I use it all the time. I definitely did not want a soap bottle out on my island.

I probably could have done without the dispenser at my clean-up sink. Getting the dish soap out is not that big of a deal, and that dispenser tends to stick occasionally, which irritates me. I guess I'm glad I got it, but I might have been just as happy without it.

I've had a soap dispenser "built in" for 11 years and love it for hand soap. It fills from the top and is very easy. I think it is a Delta that came with the faucet. But I origonally thought I'd put dish soap in it. I don't because the spout is too short for that. I keep a bottle of dishsoap on the counter and just squirt it in the pan I want to clean. But in my new remodel (where everything is suppose to look really cool, right?) I would like a suggestion on how to get rid of the dishsoap bottle. I could buy a nicer container but they don't seem to work too well dispensing soap. Putting it under the sink probably just won't happen.

I have a newer delta soap dispenser. It would have filled from the top but I couldn't stand the little funnel thing.

With a nevermt, I buy the largest size soap, replace its cap with the nevermt cap, put it against the back wall of the cabinet and pump away for two or three months. I love my nevermt. I wash a lot of pots by hand and my company dishes are hand wash only.

I've always had a built in soap dispenser and they refill from the top so it is super simple to refill. I keep hand soap in it and use it frequently. I keep dish soap under the sink as I don't hand wash nearly as much. In a perfect world for me, I would have two built in soap dispensers, one for hand soap and one for dish soap. If they are easy to refill, I don't see the need for the NeverMT.

I guess we're weird because we wash our hands with dish soap ...

I have a built in soap dispenser for hand soap. I have a small bottle of dishsoap under my sink. I like having the soap dispenser that doesn't fall over and I prefer the appearance over the other kind. I don't have a NeverMT as it's easy enough to pour the soap into my dispenser - from the top. To some extent I don't really believe in too many "labor saving" contraptions. Though I like a dishwasher and automatic washer and dryer as opposed to the alternatives I grew up with. But filling my soap dispenser is something I can do "manually".

My uncle told me to get a built-in soap dispenser. He also told me to get a pull-out faucet. Right on both accounts! The soap dispenser is so convenient, and looks much nicer than my old bottle of Ivory on the countertop. ;-)

I guess I lucked out on what type to buy - I had no idea there were differences in the way they filled! I just assumed you'd have to fill them from the bottom, but when my countertop guy punched the hole for it, he showed me that it filled from the top. (He recommended I get a funnel.)

Mine is a Blanco - it was more money than the ones in HD, but I wanted to make sure it matched my Blanco faucet (which I also love).

As for the NeverMT - I had read about them here, but I'm not sure I'm going to use so much soap (now that I have a dishwasher!) that I'll mind refilling it now and again.

I also have a built-in soap dispenser that fills easily from the top. Love it. No need for a NeverMT. I use antibacterial dish soap that can also be used as a hand soap so no need for both. I prefer less clutter on and under my sink. If you have a lot going in under the sink i.e. garbage disposal, Instant Hot water tank, trash bin, etc., the NeverMT container would take up more space as well.

If you decide on the built-in dispenser, look for one that has a long spout so it clears the counter and dispenses over the sink. Keeps your counter clean in case of drips and also makes it easy to squirt directly into large pots and dishes.

I LOOOOOOVE having a soap dispenser--couldn't wait to have one! No more moving the dish soap bottle around, or knocking it over, or trying to get the soap out as it neared the bottom of the bottle. Hooray!

Learned about the Never-MT here and I'm happy with that, too. I love that my DH will wash stuff that doesn't go into the DW (XXXOOO!), but the same part of his brain that prevents him from replacing the soap in the shower (if he's the one to use it up), would surely prevent him from refilling the dispenser bottle when that becomes empty as well. LOL

Using the Never-MT allows us to keep our soap dispenser hooked up to a large bottle of dish soap which runs out only a few times a year (and I can tell when it's getting low by the way it starts to "spurt" out the soap rather than dispensing it smoothly, so I can pick a good time for me to refill it, rather than being caught in the middle of a big clean-up). Unfortunately, space constraints (pipes, pullouts...) prevent us from keeping an über-economy sized jug under our sink, but the largest bottle sold in the supermarket still lasts a really, really long time.

Color me happy!

I've been known to wash my hands with dish soap as well!... many times...

I'm huge into handwashing, probably because I work with kids all day so I'm in the habit. Judging from all your helpful input; I think a soap dispenser will work great. I'll be sure to take the advice and get one large enough to clear the counter and make it's use for dishwashing easy. I know I'll prefer one that fills from the top... actually, I can't picture how that works. Can someone post a pic or direct me to a site where I can see that? I guess if I get one that fills from the top I won't be able to get a NeverMT after the fact if I do, in fact, end up having space under my sink.

Great point about how the soap bottles always tip over. I just hadn't thought of that.

cindy49---i have a friend who puts her dish soap in an olive oil cruet and it works pretty well and looks cute....

I LOVE having a soap dispenser, and it absolutely was worth the extra hole in the granite.

I DO NOT have a Never MT, and personally have no use of one. My soap dispense is easily filled from the top, and I dont want a long tube in my sink cabinet that could get bumped, or clogged, or a large bottle of soap down there that is not fully sealed.

Where you fill your dispenser is unrelated to the operation of a Never-MT...at least I've never read/heard of anyone who couldn't use it b/c of the fill-type.

You remove the bottle to hook up the Never-MT and then put one of the large soap bottles beneath the SD in your cabinet. The Never-MT is then connected to that bottle as well. (The SD is connected to the Never-MT...the Never-MT is connected to the large soap bottle.... (she quietly sings to herself :-) .)

For us, I don't generally use hand dish detergent to wash my hands b/c even the Palmolive soap is too harsh, especially in the winter. We put the hand washing soap in the SD and keep the dish detergent bottle either on the counter or under the sink.

I originally was going to either put in 2 SDs (one for hand soap & one for dish detergent) or put the detergent in the SD and not the hand soap. But after I thought about it, I realized that I didn't want the limitations a SD would impose on me if my dish detergent were in a fixed location (and with such a short spout). For dish detergent, I like to (1) direct exactly where I want the detergent to go (anywhere in the sink or dish...a fixed SD limits where you can pump your soap) and (2) we have two bowls in our main sink and a fixed SD w/dish detergent would have eliminated using it in one of the bowls.

HTH!

I beieve you may use the NeverMT with either the top loading SD or a bottom fill SD. I definitely like my built in SD, less clutter and one less bottle (of soap) on the counter. Bought the biggest Dawn bottle I can find and hook it up to the neverMT which is connected to the built in SD. It'll be months before I have to refill it...nice...I'm kind of lazy. I also use the Dawn dish detergent for both washing dishes and hands.

A word of caution if you should decide to go with built-in SD. Our granite fabricators drilled all holes the same size. The SD that came with my faucet actually could use a smaller hole. So be prepared when fabricators ask how many holes and what size! I made the mistake of assuming all SD require same size holes and all fabricators know what size to drill.

Soap dispensers that fill from the top - the top just lifts out. The bottom is still there, so you just pour the soap into it. Hopefully taking my countertop guy's advice and using a funnel - which I didn't. Big mistake. ;-)

My NeverMT is used with a top filling dispenser. It doesn't matter --the NeverMT tube is basically and extension tube for the pump tube that would go down to the bottom of the bottle you would need to fill more often. I ordered my dispenser online and learned it was a top fill after I got it, but I still put in the NeverMT -- I;m sure I would be able to spill, drip or overflow even with a funnel and what a pain to have to clean up!

We installed two over 2 years ago. The one in our island at the prep sink is still going and we've replaced the one under our claen-up sink once.

The Never MT itself doesn't really take up room under your sink. You do have a bottle of soap to put the end into and it is appealing to put the largest size there, but you don't have to.

I did some planning and made an effort to maximize the use of space under my sinks. My cleanup sink is in a 36" base. We have a 1HP disposal, an instant hot tank, connections for 2 DWs, 2 baskets of cleaning supplies and trash liners and 2 bins for trash and recycling. Our plan was to put in a trash pullout on one side, but because of the depth of our sink, we decided against it. There was just barely enough room to get fingers in to pull it out. Instead, we got stand alone bins that were just a bit shorter but hold as much or a little more and put them sideways across the front. The shorter bins allow us to put a lot of things into them without having to pull them out and that seemed easier to us. We love the pullout on the island, but under the large sink, not using one worked best.

The Never MT works with certain dispensers...actually quite a few, just not my model dispenser, so I'm not happy. I purchased one and am saving it for when I get another dispenser that it will work with...someday. There was a list of the dispensers that it works with that can probably be found at the manufacturer's website. Good luck! Yes it would be nice not to have to fill that soap dispenser from the top where I usually overfill it and thereby remove the oil from my soapstone as it spills over. Bah Humbug.

-Babka

I don't get the objection to the NeverMT that it takes up more room under the sink. If you are refilling a soap dispenser, you have to keep the refill bottle somewhere, and under the sink seems the most convenient place. With the NeverMT, the refill bottle is in the very back of the cabinet where it would be inconvenient to store anything else, so it actually leaves you with more room under the sink for other items you want more easily accessible.

Also, muscat brings up a concern about a soap bottle being not fully sealed. The NeverMT comes with multiple caps to fit standard size detergent bottles, and the tube runs through the cap, so the soap bottle is fully sealed.

I have had my NeverMT since January of 2008, and I have yet to replace the detergent bottle. It is still more than one-third full. I can't imagine not having it.

Not sure why this popped up after a month, but holligator is correct -- the refill bottle sits tucked in the back corner where it would be inconvenient to have anything you need to get very often and eliminates the need for a refill bottle, although I do keep a second smaller bottle in my cabinet to refill one of those scrub brushes with detergent in the handle. We've had two NeverMTs over two years now (main sink and prep sink) and have changed one bottle, consolidating the other two. Both bottles are nearly 3/4 full and we should be good for another year. Every year and a half to two years, and then no filling or spilling, just switch a bottle....

I don't understand why folks would question such a small expense for such a big convenience. There are big decisions that will really matter, cost a lot more and may not be able to be changed that I understand debate over, but something less that the cost of a fast food meal that can be easily installed and easily removed -- why not try it?

And if it doesn't fit with your dispenser, look for a tubing that will fit the stem on your dispenser. It's really a very simple tube that extends the pump into your lager bottle with a valve to prevent backflow. It might take a little looking, but I suspect that there are adapters and such that can make it work with any dispenser. The tubing is like the airline we used in our aquarium and I think I remember kits that had adapters for that. My science fair robot kids would tell you duct tape will solve most anything -- just don't put duct tape where it would get into the soap. LOL

I use a small bottle of Dawn for dishwashing, SD that came with my faucet is for handsoap but we use so much it's "always MT". So we use the Dawn. I would love to have the Never MT - where can I buy one?

ajsmama:

the link below will take you to the site to purchase a Never MT

Here is a link that might be useful: Purchase Never MT site

I have a dispenser, just went to Home Depot and bought a couple feet of platic tubing (probably under $1) and stuck it in a large container of dish soap from Costco, connected it to the sd, and...voila. It works perfectly.