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What size crown for LR?

17 years ago

It's finally time to get some crown moulding up in the LR. It will be a glossy white to match the trim. What size should we go with? Is there a standard? Ceilings are 8'. I'd rather not move the curtain rod. I believe it's 3 inches from the ceiling. If it matters my base moulding is 3 1/2" (ish)

straight view of the drapes. . .

{{!gwi}}

TIA

Comments (20)

  • 17 years ago

    I've always heard that you should have an inch of ceiling moulding for every foot of ceiling height. It sounds excessive (9 inches of moulding for 9 feet of ceiling), but the height does somewhat diminish moulding measurement.

  • 17 years ago

    Here is the size I have in my present house. This is a shot of my neighbor's, that my DH installed on her remodel. We have 8ft. ceilings. I don't know the exact size and DH is already sleeping, but I can ask him tomorrow and let you know. Couldn't take photo's of mine tonight because I dropped and broke my camera yesterdy. Clutz!!

  • 17 years ago

    I'm shopping around for crown too! The carpenters I've spoken with so far tell me that 3 1/2" is a good standard for 8 foot ceilings and for taller, many people go with 5 1/2".

  • 17 years ago

    I meant to add that there is probably some regional differences to style and size of crown as well as the style of your home and what look you are trying to achieve.

    Love Brutuses....a great traditional style.

  • 17 years ago

    Bru - Love the crown! If you do find out the size please let me know! 3 1/2"ish sounds right. I like the look of bigger crown but with the 8' ceilings and the fact that the baseboard isn't super thick it would probably look better to be around that width.

    Is it going to look stupid if the crown is slightly under the curtain rod height? When I took that picture I was standing at the entrance from my kitchen area. There's another entrance on the right from the foyer/hall.

  • 17 years ago

    I'd say my crown is 5" or maybe a tad more. I also have 8' ceilings. It's hard to measure because it's at an angle! I think the crown I have is very proportional to the room. My window/floor trim is 3".

    You will probably need to lower your drapery rods though, sorry...

  • 17 years ago

    The crown in my LR/DR/entry is in the 3-1/2" range, but when you measure the crown height it's probably close to 3". It is not just the ceiling height to factor in, but the scale of the trim throughout the rest of the house. If your base and window casings are on the smaller size, then I think the crown needs to be as well.
    {{!gwi}}
    My rod sits just under the crown, there is a small gap, but due to the angle the gap disappears.

    If you are happy with your curtain height, then it's another reason not to fuss overmuch with the rod height as then you'll need to hem up the drapes.

    Best thing is to check them out at Lowes/Home Depot to get a feel for the different sizes.

  • 17 years ago

    I hope I'm not hijacking the thread, but I've had a question or a while about crown moldings. My house has 8' textured ceilings and no crown molding. Do you thing crown molding would look dumb with textured ceilings?

  • 17 years ago

    Val - "The crown in my LR/DR/entry is in the 3-1/2" range, but when you measure the crown height it's probably close to 3"." Sorry I'm not getting this ...it actually is 3"?

  • 17 years ago

    Sheesharee, if you measure a piece of crown molding from top to bottom it measures more than it will once it is installed, because it is installed at an angle. I think what Val means is that if you measure from the ceiling down it is about 3".

  • 17 years ago

    Artlover - Ahh *lightbulb* gotcha. Thanks! I couldn't wrap my head around that. It's still early here!

  • 17 years ago

    DH says it is 3 5/8". You know him, very precise. LOL

  • 17 years ago

    3 5/8" is pretty common crown size - the depth ends up being close to 3" and the projection is a little less depending on the angle it's cut on and how wide the flat part at the bottom that sits against the wall is. I think 3 5/8" is a good size if you have 3 1/4" baseboard (which you probably do). Another common size is 2 5/8" but it's hard to find anything in between.

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks Brutuses for finding that out!

    I think I'll stick around that size. I really don't want to move that rod. Plus I like how high it is.

    This is the place we'll most likely be ordering it from. The standard crown sizes it appears they only have a 3 1/2" see HH49. I'm assuming this will be alright.

    I need to call them and I don't really know what to say. I want it to match my white trim I already have. I'd like to get a price for them to install it and a price for them just to provide it. Is it odd for me to ask for a price for it unpainted...me to paint it to match and them to install? Do we have them install it unpainted and then just paint it once it's up? Any suggestions for this? Will then need to come out and look at the room or do you think an email of the drawings should be sufficient?

    Here is a link that might be useful: HH49 Crown

  • 17 years ago

    Artlover, All of my ceilings are textured (unfortunately!), however I have crown molding everywhere and I love it! It looks very good. If you want, I will take a picture and email to you (if you give me your email address). I still don't know how to attach a picture to this web!!LOL!

    Carolyn

    acpeyton@aol.com

  • 17 years ago

    Yes, artlover explained what I meant. I'm so used to looking at specs for everything from my kitchen remodel days, I forgot not everyone thinks like that. I've seen the smaller size 2-5/8" in a friend's house with 8' ceilings and I thought it looked too skimpy given the size of the rooms so I think you are right on with the 3-1/2" / 3-5/8" size. We just bought our crown from Lowes--still have memories getting the 12' lengths home with the back of the van up..... Then our neighbor painted and installed it. After it was up he needed to do some caulking and touchup where the walls were not plumb and for the joints and nails, etc. Make sure to take the curtains down for the install since he also had to do a bit of sanding.

    I just measured and my rod sits 5" down on the wall--even thought it looks like it sits right under the crown. That is due to the viewing angle from lower down. We had confusion about this when I had the drapes made as I had wanted a gap between the crown and rod, but once it was up you really cannot see the gap. It's one of those things, now it's up, I actually prefer it that way and opted not to shorten the drapes.

  • 17 years ago

    artlover: Regarding your question, my ceilings have a light texture that is the same as the wall. I think it looks OK, but best thing would be to start a new thread and post a picture of your walls/ceilings to get additional feedback since there are many different types of texturing.

  • 17 years ago

    Val - Thanks for checking that out. Is your crown seamed together at spots? I originally considered getting it from Lowes but then thought it was suppose to be one solid piece? Our LR is 18 x 15. I guess that would be interesting for large houses.

  • 17 years ago

    In a few places. My neighbor, who is a part time carpenter, had only done crown a few times before and felt more comfortable working with smaller sections so even though we bought longer lengths sometimes he broke them up. This is probably not necessarily how a pro would do it, but when he seemed it together he did a bias cut and it's really not that noticable since it's all sanded and painted over. If it were finished (stained) crown, it'd be much more exacting. My kitchen/office installers were pros at that.

    If you want to see a pic, let me know and I'll try to do a close up for you.

  • 17 years ago

    Val if you wouldn't mind taking close up pics that would be great!

    New snafu. Got some different pricing but the place I linked above doesn't install. Now I need to try and find a carpenter to do it. Any pointers for what I should be asking and looking for? I don't want it to look lousy up.

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