I have a Franke single sink that is deep, wide, and wonderful! I would never again go with anything smaller. It's large enough to wash grill parts and huge pots and pans. Also, I bought a stainless sink grid to go in the bottom so that when I do wash small items, I can drain them dry and never see them because the sink is so deep. I did not buy a Franke sink grid, I found one that covers about half the sink and it really serves my purposes nicely.

I would bet that a 30" wide sink would better serve you than the two 24" bowls considering your pupose.

31 1/2" x 19 1/2" under mount stainless steel sink

16 gauge stainless steel.

Bowl: 30" x 18" x 11 1/2"

Mounting clips included

Commercial-grade stainless steel with same specifications as used in FRANKE-built sinks for McDonald's restaurants worldwide

Welded, extra-deep bowls for under mount installation

Here is a link that might be useful: My grid is something like this one

An apartment I stayed in in Italy had a dishdrainer built into a cabinet above the kitchen sink. The dishes drained into a stainless tray in the base of the cabinet, and the the whole dishrack was concealed behind doors. I've never seen this arrangement in the States; seemed a sensible solution to the dishdrainer eyesore. That said, I don't think folks should be particularly troubled by their dishdrainers. You are right to hand wash some items, and the room is a kitchen, after all. The kitchens that look like model homes always seem a bit sad and lifeless to me.

We got a 30" sink and then used another 24" and put in a second DW. The dishdrainer over the sink wasn't an option with that being the spot with the only window, but I've seen some and it's a clever and can be an attractive option.

BTW, with one 30" sink (similar to that one shown above) -- I don't feel the need for another one.

lascatx I'm confused. You have a 30" and a 24" side by side? Hmmmm. I feel like I'm missing something.

morton thank you for not judging my dishdrainer eyesore habit : ) But I'm not sure one 30" sink would fit all the pots, pans, collanders, etc. that I routinely drain. But you have me wondering if I should have a 30" and 24" side by side.

judydel, I'm interested to know how you like the Clarion farmhouse sink. I'm thinking of getting one for the clean-up zone in our new kitchen. (There will be another sink for food prep.) I too wash lots of things by hand and leave them out to dry. I'm wondering if the drainboards are sloped enough to let water drain into the sink without the pots or whatever sliding down. Also, what do you think of the sink overall? How did you end up integrating it into your design?

Man! If I had the space I'd go for it!

30" divided into 21" + 9" for a small drainer was all I could fit in. But a system like yours with the drainer always available but sunk into the sink works for me.

I always thought my pre renovation kitchen was a kosher kitchen because it had 2 full size sinks with a DW in between. I have to say it was really annoying because it seemed I always had 2 sinks full of dishes. Now I have a huge deep one and a pretty drainer and much prefer it. I seem to put the stuff away right away since the dishes are more visible than down in the sink. Just my 2 cents since I had a similar set up.

I seriously considered this myself since I didn't think a dual sink with two really large bowls was available. I say go for it!

kitchendetective-I'd love to see a picture of your commercial sink if you happen to have one. Is it the kind with legs instead of in a cabinet? Just today I was looking into commercial sinks as I'm going for a sort of industrial eclectic look in my kitchen. Thanks!!

Hey, I was just talking about this set-up today w/ my friend.
Definitely go for it.

I've been hemming/hawing about this idea for a while. I would do at least a 30" and then next to it, a 24" (or bigger) sink. My reasoning is (including always having stuff on my beautiful Simple Human never-rusting dish drainer), I don't want anything to block my whole wall of counter-height windows.
I'm planning on Stainless steel seamless counters, so my fabricator would just stamp out 2 big deep sinks. So now the dish rack/dishes would sit ~10" lower than if they were to sit on the counter (blocking the window).

But would it be overkill to have 2 sinks and 2 dishwasher drawers flanking these sinks? I do plan on 2 DW, so I may not get these 2 sinks (and use 1 DW drawer just for air-drying stuff).

I'm also designing my friend's kitchen, so I proposed this idea to her (she'll also have a whole wall of counter-height windows) and would love the fact that the dish rack would not be blocking the view.

I would love to see pictures.

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Hi --

this month's House Beautiful's Kitchen of the Month has two sinks side-by-side with dishwashers flanking them. It's really lovely -- the kitchen is to die for in general, but I did especially like the side by side sinks.

I'll see if I can find my copy and scan it for the thread.

ahne b

Judy,

Here's my 2 bits worth from another dish drainer person! I always had a huge dish drainer (so big that it was fairly difficult to 'hide it' under the sink when I knew company was coming). In fact, my original plans for my kitchen included getting runnels as I just assumed I'd have the dish drainer on the counter (though maybe upgraded to a 'prettier' one) in the new kitchen.

But, with my new bigger, deeper sink ( I have 2/3, 1/3- 10" deep with granite), I hand wash in the bigger one and keep a new smaller dish drainer in the smaller sink. Huge huge improvement in how my kitchen looks, and because the DD is smaller, I put the dishes away sooner. Also, with a new tall tub DW I can fit more dishes/pots in there, so don't have to hand wash quite so many things.

I think some people are not hand washers, don't know how that can be :>), but when I talked to my Mom about runnels, she had no idea what I was talking about, and when I explained, had no idea why I would need them! :>) So, different things for different folks. But, I would guess that I would be like Cleo, if I had more space for dishes to dry in, it would just be filled up with more dishes. I really really prefer my new setup, with enough room to put those few things I have to dry, but small enough that it forces me to put things away sooner. (AND, being in the sink, hidden from view)

No more ugly plastic drainer on the counter- no need for runnels (which are expensive!!) Yeah!

I'm pretty sure it's this one. It was ordered almost 3 years ago, so may be slightly different. I removed the left faucet and installed the Kohler and a soap dispenser in the holes. It's on one of the sink pages in the Superior online catalog. Superprod.com (I think). I'm having trouble getting the website link to work.
http://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/NextDayGourmet/015643?$detail$

Here is a link that might be useful: Superior

I'm afraid this is the only photo I have that shows any part of the sink.

{{!gwi}}

You might consider a KWC systema faucet, which would reach all of your sinks on the rinse function, and you could center the main faucet over two of the bowls (if you have three) that you use the most for "washing" and then have the rinse function (the longer reaching faucet) available for all three bowls.

I have a huge 30" x 19 x 12deep sink by Franke. It's a commercial grade sink and it's a beauty. It's deep enough to hold many a dish when dirty :) As well as any pot or pan we own. In addition, we are putting in a stainless steal counter on that run, which will have a sloped drainboard into the sink.

We wash quite a bit by hand (lots of wine glasses, crystal, venetian glass, pots and pans, knifes and the quicky items that you brought up). I personally don't mind seeing them in the kitchen, and I don't have space for two sinks :) So one will have to do.

I'd be seriously tempted to switch out to a three bowl sink if I had the room. What a great idea :) (DH would hate it...he's the single bowl guru who wanted this sink...and since he does most of the dishes...he wins heh heh).

kitchendetective: w/ the 3 sinks, do you have a prep sink elsewhere? Also, can you share the dimensions of the sinks?
I'm trying to decide on whether or not to put a prep sink in the island, when I'll already have 2 sinks at the perimeter.

ahneb: yes, please share a picture if you can find it.

Thanks.

I have a Kindred single bowl, stainless steel undermount in my island. That's my prep sink. The interior dimensions are roughly 23" x 17" x 9" (plus granite depth). The kitchen is approximately 18' x 26', but about 4' of the length is a sort of open hall between one of the verandas and the kitchen. The prep sink is closer to both the big range/double ovens and the little cooktop and gets a lot of use. So, I guess whether you'll need a prep sink depends upon your layout and usage patterns. We've had DH, DD1, DSIL1, DD2, DSIL2, DS1 and girlfriend, DS2 and girlfriend, and moi cooking all at once and no one felt cramped because of the way the kitchen is laid out.

You might have been asking about the triple sink dimensions? The overall length of the triple sink is 56" and the front-to-back depth is 25". The Promaster reaches all sinks and corners. My disposer is in the middle. That dishwasher is on the left. (The dishwasher for the prep sink is to the right of the prep sink.)

doing a multiple bowl sink with 2 faucets would be a great way to eliminate a prep sink. 2 people could be on either side using the sink. Interesting idea!!

I'm thinking of a commercial sink on legs. Love the industrial look.

I just saw the question frm March 11th. I wasn't that clear, sorry. We have a single 31" sink with a DW On either side, and that has done much more to keep the counters cleans and dirty dishes out of sight. I do have a second sink -- 1 15 inch prep sink inthe island -- but not another one in the cleanup area.