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13 years ago

The house I will be renovating is entered right off the sidewalk. The public cement sidewalk touches the house, there is a one-step stoop (should be two) and then you are in the house. There is no roof over the stoop and no real way to add one.

Currently you walk into a combined entry-dining room and I do not like this at all. The owners we bought from didn't use it as a "room" at all, and neither do the tenants--it's like a large entryway and they keep their bikes (and often the trash can) there. The floor is wood and it has no finish left around the front door at all.

When we move in, I am going to create a vestibule and a small room, and the vestibule will be very tight, slightly less than 4 feet wide, but longish, @ 10ft.

A super tight vestibule of about 4x4 is common where live in period housing and I think it is almost always a mistake to take it out because it dumps you into the living room (usually) and there is no air lock at the entry.

Because these are so small, they often had marble or granite wainscoting and tile floors, or tiled walls and floors.
It's not uncommon in some parts of the city for it to look almost like a shower stall if it was remodeled in the midcentury period.

A client of mine took Out the tile because it looked bathroomish, and basically yells a her husband on a daily basis because he scratches and gouges the drywall with his briefcase, backpack and bike.

My house is modernist, and vaguely brutalist on the exterior and generally for my own projects I like to reduce the number of finishes, materials and colors of the envelope of the entire interior to a minimum. (So I can fill the rooms with whatever furniture, artwork, and colors of stuff that I feel like.)

Originally, I was going to do soapstone counters in the kitchen (that is adjacent to the front door), and the entryway will have concrete tile flooring and a linear drain near the front threshold. So, I thought I would do a soapstone wainscot.

Now, I am considering stainless steel countertops, and if there is no stone in the kitchen I don't want it in the hallway. This leads me back to tile wainscoting (albeit concrete tile) , or stainless steel wainscoting, or something else, and I am not particularly sold on tile or stainless.

What if I did panels of poured concrete (molded against plywood like brutalist structures)? What about concrete tile like the floor? Is there some material I am not thinking of?

Comments (31)

  • 13 years ago

    Consider large 20+" porcelain tiles on the diagonal or straight on the entry walls to protect against gouges in the walls.

    We have a row of those under our bar tops at kicking height, to prevent those sitting in stools from kicking in the drywall. Works like a charm!

    This post was edited by desertdance on Sat, May 4, 13 at 15:37

  • 13 years ago

    Very interesting -- I like the idea of concrete paneling. Galvanized sheet steel? Some kind of glass? Unglazed quarry tile?

    (I have stainless counters -- love 'em)

  • 13 years ago

    Pyrolave?

    Here is a link that might be useful: architectural uses for Pyrolave

  • 13 years ago

    The cement tile is almost like quarry tile. It will probably be Ann Sacks Hacienda for the front hall and bathroom floors. I had a plate-glass backsplash in the place I sold and it got a stress crack in it, so I am kind of hesitant to go that route again, but I've considered it, because it could be whatever the wall color is.

    Whatever I use it has to be a material and/or color that is used elsewhere throughout the house. I realize this sets some limitations.

  • 13 years ago

    If I had the budget...

  • 13 years ago

    Dare I suggest linoleum? I don't know how old your house is, but it may be period correct.

  • 13 years ago

    Just saw some cement tiles online -- beautiful & sophisticated.
    Are you thinking along these lines?
    Concrete tiles

    Frosted glass tile?

  • 13 years ago

    Porcelain is a possibility if I can find a color or non-color in one of the extra large formats, say 30"x30" or larger so each wainscot will be essentially seamless.

    Linoleum is a product I hadn't thought of in this application and it could really fit the bill as a simple, monolithic, but sturdy wallcovering.

  • 13 years ago

    Oh, just saw your mention of Hacienda. Funny, I was going to say saltillo but didn't think that's what you were after. I love the Hacienda tile -- gorgeous. I've had a hankering for that look. (Also for 2x2 mosaic, which is starting to look fresh again to my eyes.)

  • 13 years ago

    The concrete look tiles you posted were one of the original concepts I had, but I think they are actually a bit "too sophisticated" for this house, which is actually a bit rough around the edges. There is an exposed rafter and sheathing roof in part of the house that is very raw and part of the original intent of the house, so I have shifted to a different type of concrete tile that is more like a paver and a bit rustic.

    I've been waiting to move into this house for almost two years, and my ideas about it have shifted somewhat during this period. Actually I have shifted to the extent of looking at other houses even, but luckily haven't found anything even more suitable than this (at least that I could afford).

  • 13 years ago

    We've been following your house adventures for so long, I feel like we've all mentally moved into this house with you . We're at home in the Brutalist building already -- you can't leave, even if you're not there yet!

    Thought you might enjoy this picture. Isn't the stair rail wonderful? I love the mesh with the concrete and wood:
    {{!gwi}}
    (hope this picture loads...Never can tell anymore)

  • 13 years ago

    Trying again with the mesh stair rail pic:

  • 13 years ago

    Copper sheeting? Doesn't sound like it is being used elsewhere though.

  • 13 years ago

    Maybe this is too rural for you, but I love flex grate and cocoa matting in my mudroom and I would love it with slate tile wainscoting. Hmmmm, I may have just created a new summer project for myself.

    Here is a link that might be useful: harbor farm

  • 13 years ago

    Copper may be used on the exterior. There is patio on behind a parapet and right now it is flashed with some really ugly white stuff. It's not huge so I may replace with with copper.

    The grate and matting is a good idea that I will put in my mental rolodex for other uses. Here we are faced more with urban grime and winter salt and rain.

    That railing is really nice: the details like how the smaller brass tubing trumpets out to meet the wood--thought went into that.

  • 13 years ago

    Well if you like copper and want continuity of materials, you could consider it for the exterior use, for the entryway and for the kitchen countertops. . . .

  • 13 years ago

    Cedar plywood treated in shou sugi ban would be interesting.

  • 13 years ago

    Cork?

  • 13 years ago

    Cork! I like that suggestion. Seems to come in a variety of textures and colors, too.

  • 13 years ago

    It's really tough to direct link to pictures on the net now. Frustrating.

  • 13 years ago

    Have actually been considering cork wallcovering for one of the bathrooms.

  • 13 years ago

    Another vote for concrete tile.

  • 13 years ago

    Cork. Takes me waay back. We bought a house with cork wall covering in the 60's. Just know, it will absorb odors, and you can't get rid of them.

    Maybe they seal it better than they used to.

  • 13 years ago

    I really like the idea of less sophisticated concrete panels or pavers for your entryway. I think it will be fabulous.

  • 13 years ago

    I am having trouble visualizing g the space. Are you intending to use the wall treatment as wainscoting or all the way up the walls?

  • 13 years ago

    I like the cork idea for the walls, too. So much warmer than concrete tile.

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    13 years ago

    A customer told me he did an iron coating on his wall and loved it. Very industrial. May be worth a look?

    The Iron Coating material oxidizes and changes color upon drying leaving a stabile Iron surface.

    (I think this is the company he used)

    Here is a link that might be useful: Mineral Life

  • 13 years ago

    kswl, It is going to be a narrow hallway, with a set of pocket doors on one side, a single pocket door on the other and a door at the end (Either pocket or paired). Probably a bit under 4' wide and 10' +/- long. Whether or not it is set as wainscot depends upon the material.

    It will be a transitional space to prevent the feeling of being so close to the sidewalk, and it will take the Frank Lloyd Wright's notion of "Compression" at the entryway literally.
    But there is not much alternative.

    As far as cork picking up odors...dunno, we don't smoke, and I don't have the impression any of our houses have stunk despite all the rugs and textiles. One of the running positive commentaries when our last house was on the market was how it smelled good or it "didn't have a smell" so I am not really afraid of using cork as a wallcovering.

    Whatever it is it has to be very durable and cleanable because it's the only way into the house.

  • 13 years ago

    A friend of mine actually had Cor-Ten steel panels in their house, including the backplash,

  • 13 years ago

    How about waxing the concrete, to dress it up entry-style? Would be handsome and also keep it from staining.

    You know, regarding the way that house has been used in the past, marketing experts design store layouts knowing that customers don't slow down to examine merchandise until they're at least 20 feet into the store. They need that transition to feel "inside." Many millions of "front" rooms in housing developments are neglected for very similar reasons (the typical front lawn being semipublic space), so it's not surprising that the entire front room of a home with the sidewalk on the other side of the wall would become a place to move on through. I'm guessing your little vestibule will be a really valuable improvement.

  • 13 years ago

    Sort of an out there suggestion but they make slatwalls for garages or store displays and you can get them in a variety of materials including metal. It would also give you the practical option to easily add or move wall accessories like hooks, shelves or baskets, something you might want in an entryway.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Slatwalls