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Kitchen Remodel Feedback with pics

14 years ago

I am reposting with pictures embedded as suggested. Hopefully this will be easier to review.

I have been reading this forum for a while to help with our kitchen remodel. We have learned a lot from reading other posts and greatly appreciate the expertise of this group. We are down to the final stages and would like some feedback.

Our kitchen remodel will include new cabinets, countertops, flooring, backsplash, range and microwave. I attached the current layout as well as the planned one.

Our main goals were to open up the space by eliminating the peninsula, to lighten the room with lighter cabinets (current cabinets are stained dark walnut), and modernize a 40 year old kitchen. This includes our only dining area so we need to have space for that although at our stage of life we do not have many dinners with a lot of guests. I started with a Lowes KD who was quite good and then had a custom cabinet company visit my home and he made a few tweaks to that design.

I have settled on cherry cabinets with a light to medium stain. The doors will be mitered raised panel with a double bead and drawers with a nice beaded design. Please let us know if you see any issues or suggestions for our layout and plans. A couple of items to note are:

- Cabinets will extend 1 more foot � 10�8" of room (length = 19�7"). Is that encroaching too much on dining area? My DW is concerned about the loss of cabinets from peninsular and the proposed design alleviates that.

- Custom cabinet guy suggested leaving corner wall cabinets as is rather than putting a diagonal cabinet there as proposed by Lowes. He claims it is more functional as is with more space. This seems contrary to what other KDs suggest and what I see in stores. However, he may be right because the current space is quite accessible. Thoughts?

My wife wants Quartz countertops because she is concerned about stains or scratching of granite or other counter types. She is picking that, the backsplash tile and the tile floor.

Colors:

As a guy, I need help matching everything. We will have white oak floors with light finish in dining area (same as our living room and foyer), tile TBD in kitchen. The door and baseboard trim will be white except quarter round which will match cabinets or oak floor, depending on where it is. Should we paint bay window white or stain to match cabinets or white oak floor? I installed it last year and left it with bare wood until we knew what we would be doing with the kitchen.

The cabinets will come with 5" crown molding. I plan to put matching crown in the dining area and have option of having it stained like cabinets or painting it white. Any suggestions?

Thanks for any feedback you can provide. I will do another post about quotes I got from different providers which should prove interesting and helpful to others.

Here are Pics of current and proposed layouts:

Comments (9)

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

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  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    try reversing the setups on the L and R of frig. the dining area/liv room flow of people coming in and out will be more significant. Therefore,the part with the counter
    is better on that side of frig. I'm not certain you are maximizing your whole sq footage avail to work with,but if your goal is light filled and airy,this will be pleasant.It is a big decision to eliminate the peninsula, if this is the only dining area. Had you thought of just reducing the peninsula dimension,but keeping that type of setup?

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I know most people are stuck and centering their sink under a window. I get that. However; almost all of your prep work is going to be in that corner between the sink and range. I had that and hated it. I'd think about flipping the DW and sink to maximize what turns out to be the most valuable space in your kitchen.

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Personally, I would not move the DW to the other side of the sink, rather, I would move that drawer stack (or trash pullout). That would:

    (1) Place the trash pullout right where you need it most - in the Prep Zone and next to the Cooking Zone,

    (2) Make it easier to reach the trash while cleaning up as well (no dodging around an open DW),

    (3) Give you 39" to 42" of prep space b/w the corner and the sink (18" trash pullout + 12" drawer base or tray cabinet + 12" or 9" of the corner susan - see later about the susan's dimensions), and

    (3) Put your Prep Zone in front of the window. Most people spend at least 70% of their time prepping and only 20% cleaning up. The other 10% is spent cooking. I'd rather place the Zone I spend the most time in in front of the window....and that means the Prep Zone (with the sink next to it).

    Is the corner susan a 36"x36" corner susan? If it is not, I would seriously consider making it that size. Yes, you can get 36"x33" susans, but the front opening is smaller and may or may not be big enough for what you plan to store there. Decide what you will store in the corner susan and be sure the smaller opening will work for you. Many of us here have found that corner susans are great for storing pots & pans and/or small appliances.

    I really wish you could get mores space b/w the range and doorway, but unless you're willing/able to move doorways, I don't see a way to do that and still keep the Cooking Zone out of the path b/w the Foyer and the rest of the house.

    If you find that a 33"x36" corner susan will work for you, I would switch the 33" side to the range side. That would give you a 15" cabinet on the other side of the range...at least that's another 3" of safety zone and emergency landing space b/w the range and Foyer doorway.

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Your kitchen layout and size looks exactly like my brother's kitchen. Trying to prep in the space is very difficult. It is typically to the left of the sink or right of the range, where the counter meets in the corner of the L, so it is awkward and crunched. It gets worse when someone else is at the sink working. My brother and SIL also stack clean dishes to the left of the sink, and that area is pretty much always full of stuff (including the toaster at the end of that run). And the small portion of the counter to the left of the range can't fit a lot in terms of landing space (mostly a place to set down potholders). So there's not a nice long stretch of working space.

    If you are confined to this layout, check out Rococogurl's. Maybe you can add some working space like she has.

    Agree with remodelfla. If the off-centering on the window bothers you, can you put in a larger window? I know, it's more expensive, but may be worth it.

    And a totally different direction --> Would you be able to move the door to the foyer over (to the right)? If you did this, you would get a longer run on the south wall (in your drawing), and could keep the peninsula, with the main thoroughfare being on the east side. You could put the range under the window (yes! it's done, and can look great), put the sink and DW in the peninsula, and the fridge and pantry area on the south wall. Just throwing out some other options to help you better utilize your space and get more usable counter space....

    You might want to check out the finished kitchens blog to look at other kitchens and associated layouts to get ideas.

    Good luck!

    Here is a link that might be useful: Rococogurl's Beautiful Kitchen

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. There were some really good and creative suggestions. We appreciate your feedback.

    The peninsula will definitely have to go. Both of us are in the kitchen a lot and I usually help her when we have guests. Too tight quarters for multiple cooks (or helpers). We believe we will have sufficient cabinet space without it. However, we do have concern about the loss of counterspace. We are trying to compensate for that by putting MW over the range and installing a pocket door to the foyer. In our current kitchen the counter to the right of the Refrig. does not get much use because the door is in the way. We will probably put coffer pot and stuff like that over on that counter, leaving rest free for prep and cleanup.

    The suggestion to move DW (or Trash cabinet)to left of sink is very appealing because it will provide a much better prep area. I will discuss with my wife and KD to see what they think.

    Thanks again.

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Wow that layout is soooooo similar to mine. We removed the upper cabinets over our peninsula and added a new taller bar height. Keeping the peninsula also enabled me to have two corner Susan's that you can get a whole lot of storage from.

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  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Forgot to show you our fridge wall.

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Nice kitchen. It has a great look. Your coffeemaker is even in the same spot as ours. Amazing how similar it is. Thanks for sharing