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Firing our contractor - long

20 years ago

We are doing a 2 story addition to our 1550 sq ft home. The addition is approx 500-600 sq ft and includes expanding the LR downstairs and adding 2 BR and a bath upstairs, re-roofing, re-siding, changing our heating system from steam to forced air and then adding Central A/C. We hired the guy who did our kitchen because we had a great experience with him, have recommended him to others who have also had great experiences with him, and because we trusted him. He also was giving us more for our $$. The project started mid-June. It took one month to get the foundation in. In Aug 7, our contractor asked us to move out, We knew it was coming but didn't realize it would happen so soon so my DH took a day off from work and moved by himself to my in-laws house.

We thought that since we moved out, work would progress. Instead, our contractor ended up doing no work for 2 weeks! I know he may have been finishing up other jobs, but why did he tell us to move out? Fast forward to almost 4 months later and framing still isn't done. October is here and our contractor still hasn't put up the beams to support the roof or even started ripping the old one down. Not to mention that the last couple of yimes its rained, the tarp was not up correctly which resulted in flooding and our DR ceiling collapsing. Also, he did not rent a dumpster so our front yard and the inside of the house is a disgrace, I'm not saying it has to be neat but I wonder how people work in that condition. He shows up about 3x/week but claims this is his only job.

My DH has lost all trust. He is questioning everything our contractor is doing and constantly flipping out. I, on the other hand, still thinks that he is ok and that it may be taking longer because he's being extra careful. Bottom line is that my DH is concerned that the house will not be sealed in time. He says that if we get an early frost, there's a possibility that our pipes might freeze and our house will be ruined.

DH wants to fire our contractor and hire someone else to finish the job. We paid $50K already on a $200K job.

Anyway, are we overreacting?

Comments (8)

  • 20 years ago

    jyyanks,
    it sounds like a nightmare.
    Being behind schedule is not uncommon, but trashing your house is unacceptable.
    I had a much smaller project and my GC rented a porta-potty, dumpster and ensured the job site was cleaned-up at the end of day.
    Did your GC address your complaint about the rain and weather damaging your home?
    Winter is just around the corner. Why not shutoff the water now?
    -jasper

  • 20 years ago

    "Anyway, are we overreacting?"

    Hardly. You haven't done anything yet as far as I can tell.
    You are simply considering firing the GC.

    You might consider demanding an immediate stop to all work and a written construction plan/schedule from your GC. I would expect this to detail timing and what contractors he has hired as subs. Give him 3 days to present the plan.
    If the plan is not acceptable, then demand the unspent funds be returned and get a new GC.

    There is no reason in the world for your house to be trashed.

    Did he present a timeline and completion date at the beginning?

    g'luck

  • 20 years ago

    Thank you for your responses. We had a "talk" with him about all the delays as well as the trash that has built up outside and inside our house. He told us he would do something about it but he has been telling us that for months.

    Jasper - he did agree to replace the DR ceiling but he didn't say anything about our carpet.

    Bill - When he first started the job he told us 8-12 weeks. Its been over that and the framing isn't even done! I love your idea about the plan. I didn't know we could ask for this but will do so now.

    Do you think its not too late to get another contractor? Would another contractor be willing to finish a job started by someone else?

  • 20 years ago

    Never too late to get someone else unless you're bound by contract - what are the legals? Yes it may be a little hard to get someone to finish it but what's the alternative? Winter is indeed coming, but I suppose if you're not living in there as it is, you can turn off and drain plumbing.

    reminds me of an unlicensed guy I was working for, fine for a kitchen maybe but when it came to bigger stuff he was clueless - got job done mostly but not legal, not approved, and not licensed.

    I think you have to maybe consult a lawyer, check the contract - there IS a contract, right? and then either just sack him or give him an ultimatim and demand, as mentioned, a plan/timetable.

  • 20 years ago

    What does your contract say about parting ways? Is this guy lisensed and bonded? Did he pull a permit? Did he hire a structural engineer to be sure his foundation and beams would carry the load that is required? I'm sorry, but for the scope of work you're describing, and your location, the price is much too low for the remodel you're in the midst of. That usually indicates a "contractor" who isn't on the up and up. Check with the state licensing board to make sure he is liscensed, and check with the insurance commission to make sure he is insured. If he is neither of these, and you do not have a written contract, then send him a registered letter stating what you have discovered, and demand a refund. You probably won't get it, and you'll be in the middle of investigating real contractors who will charge you a premium to finish a half done job, so you probably won't have the energy or money to take him to court. Consider it an expensive lesson learned.

  • 20 years ago

    Don't worry...it's easy to fire a contractor. We fired 2 sets of them and then general contracted the total home renovation ourselves! We got sick and tired of being ripped off with shoddy work and high expenses.

    My partner is an attorney...it helps to have one around. Don't hesitate to contact a contract attorney to check your options. Depends on the contract you signed, your locality, local laws, etc.

    Getting rid of your contractor is the easy part. Finding another one on short notice who is good is the hard part. Be prepared to stop all work and wait several months for a good contractor. The good ones are working and booked that far in advance. You do NOT want someone who can walk into your job next week. Most likely they are inexperienced, not good, and not busy for a reason.

  • 20 years ago

    It sounds like some hard decisions need to made, and made quickly.
    Both the price and the time frame quoted to you for the scope you describe seem unrealistic.
    It also sounds like you would be well served with some professional advice and assistance.
    I am not from your area, but I would try and locate someone who can provide professional construction managment (not necessarily a GC) and an attorney. We use an architect here in MD with extensive residential and commercial experience who does a lot of expert witness and forensic architect stuff to document and quantify any job we take on from a "fired GC" situation. It happens a lot.

    Your local Association of architects might be of some help in finding one. Or your local NARI chapter might be of some help.

    Some contractors will be hesitant to take on a job in mid stream, but there are good one's who will. It can be tricky, because no GC wants to be in the position of having to assume the liabilities and warranty the work of a bad GC.

    It is NOT too late to bring in a new GC. Just make sure you don't make the same mistake twice.

    Here in the DC area I have heard very good comments from folks who have used Angie's List, you might want to contact them.

    g'luck

  • 20 years ago

    iyyanks, anything new ?