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Island Layout

15 years ago

Hi - I have read a lot on this forum and find it very helpful. We have most of our kitchen design figured out but can't decide on the island layout. We want to have seating for 4 and plan on using it for most meals, doing homework, hanging out etc. I feel like it may be too large for the space since the kitchen is long and somewhat narrow. I would appreciate any feedback from the 3 choices shown in the sketches below or any other ideas. Thanks

http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n511/bambam7771/al.jpg

http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n511/bambam7771/b.jpg

http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n511/bambam7771/c.jpg

Comments (9)

  • 15 years ago

    I would choose this one.

    Your walkways look a little narrow especially the point between the curve in the island and the corner near the doorway. You may wnt to slide the island to the right to help to open up this area. Also you may want to consider moving the DW to the left of the sink so that when the DW door is open it won't block the walkway.

  • 15 years ago

    Bambam,

    I am a little worried because some of your corners (in each of the renderings) seem a little pinched. Are you tied to this layout? Is anything negotiable in regard to having an island vs a peninsula? I have a few thoughts if you are open to other ideas. Many on this forum are better at layouts than I am, but I do have some ideas if you aren't 100% set on the island...

  • 15 years ago

    We are planning a similar "dog leg" shaped island to your "B" plan (although I am leaving an open mind until the cabinets are in and I see how the space feels - we may stick with seating on the short end only.)

    Anyway, I agree that your spaces might be tight (and I agree that pulling the island out a bit to the right might help to alleviate that) but it would really help to know your traffic pattern to make that call. Specifically, where does the doorway in the lower left go? Do you have a lot of traffic there? If you do, the tightness of the space around the island will bring people through your cooking/prep space when others are seated at the island. (Not necessarily a deal breaker, if you don't mind, but something to think about.)

  • 15 years ago

    Bump

  • 15 years ago

    I too am planning a similar island shape. I would love to have your space! I got some helpful feedback about pinch points and narrow aisles, but I'm still leaning toward a version of my plan.
    That being said, you might want to watch the space on the seating area of your island. To fit four chairs/stools you have to have bigger than 4'x4'3"... if each person uses 24" then the "corner people" will have their plates on top of each other (not to mention the footsies!). I do like that look though (perpendicular seating rather than straight line).
    Then again, you are maintaining a dining table in the room, while I intend to make my primary kitchen seating at the island alone.
    Tried to link the thread about my layout, but it got rejected (???)

  • 15 years ago

    I'm worried about your aisle widths, too, esp. in front of the refrigerator. Even so-called counter depth are deeper than the counters by a few to several inches with the handles, and they need about an inch of space at the back for ventilation. Check the specs carefully of the model you plan to get, and make sure that you have room to pull it all the way out (for maintenance, etc.) without hitting the island. (This is less crucial if it's open on the side by the door rather than boxed in, but you'll still want room for the doors to open without blocking the aisle completely.)

    Are your aisle measurements counter to counter, or cabinet face to cabinet face? Counter over hangs can add 1 - 1.5" beyond the cabinet face. So if your measurements are cabinet to cabinet your aisles will actually be smaller.

    Can the door near the range wall be made a pocket door, or can it be changed to swing the other way? That would help spacing in the lower left corner.

  • 15 years ago

    A:


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    B - see previous post by willtv


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    C:

  • 15 years ago

    Hi Bambam,

    Our space is almost identical to yours. We opted for the layout below, the part of the island where the stools are located is where the space widens at the L where our dining area is (similar to your B option). It has worked out very well for us and we have 4 stools and plenty of space to get around. The layout shows a 9" overhang but we actually went with a 12" overhang.

    Here's a pic with the stools looking through the dining area(excuse the crappy picture)

    Here is a closer pic of the island eating area

    Hope this helps!

  • 15 years ago

    Just an FYI...in Plan B, you only have room for three stools, not four. In your drawing, you have the two corner stools sharing the exact same leg space...that won't work.

    Be very careful about aisle widths...be sure you're measuring counter-to-counter and not cabinet-to-cabinet. Since counter overhangs are around 1.5", if you're measuring cab-to-cab, then your aisles are 3" narrower b/w the island and the perimeter counters.

    Additionally, as others have pointed out, counter-depth refrigerators actually stick out 30" or more from the back wall when you count doors and handles....thus reducing your aisle even more. The way around this is to either get a "true counter depth" refrigerator or a built-in refrigerator.

    Finally, if you plan to use your island for most meals, homework, etc., that means you intend sitting there for extended periods of time...so do you and your family a big favor and get decent overhangs. Don't skimp! For counter-height seating, the minimum recommended overhang is 15"...but more is better, especially since you plan to use it for so much and for such long periods of time. And remember, each person also needs 24" of linear space (I think you have that in your layout, but I wanted to mention it just in case!) If you do skimp on overhang, keep in mind that people will not take up any less space...they'll just be less comfortable sitting at the island.

    People take up the same amount of floor (and aisle) space with a 15" overhang as they do with a 12" or 9" overhang, they just have to lean farther forward to reach the counter if the overhang is less than 15". Alternatively, they could sit sideways (and now need 36" of linear space) or they could "straddle" the island. None of these options (straddle, sideways, lean farther forward) are very comfortable for any length of time.



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