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Diagonal Upper Cabinet

17 years ago

We are getting close to finalizing our layout thanks to all your help. We are struggling with a couple decisions though and would appreciate your insight.

The space between the range and fridge will be a baking area and we planned on storing the kitchenaid mixer in that corner. I had envisioned having a diagonal upper cabinet in that space...either 24" or 27" and raised a bit higher than the cabinets on either side. Would a diagonal upper cabinet get in the way of using the mixer? Would it be better to have the cabinets come together at a 90 degree corner? I prefer the look of the diagonal, but I want to be able to use that space. Here is a 3D version of our what I'm talking about thanks to rhome...the upper corner cabinets in this picture are at 90 degree. Any pictures of a mixer stored in a similar corner would be extremely helpful.

Thanks!

Comments (16)

  • 17 years ago

    I think it would be perfect, actually. You can shove the mixer way back when not in use and it'll really be out of the way. You don't have to raise the cabinet in the corner for it to work, although it might look nice.

    If you don't raise the cabinet though, be extra careful the mixer will fit--I have the larger model KA and it only fits under the cabinets on one side of my unremodeled kitchen.

    I do wonder if it'll interfere with the range though. A diagonal base in that corner might make it too tight. You might want to do a full sized mockup. Appearances-wise, it'll look nice with your corner sink.

  • 17 years ago

    The diagonal cab would use the same space as the one I've shown, in relation to the range, so that's not a problem. I also have the upper cabinets drawn at 54" from the floor...18" off the counter, so you should be able to use the mixer there, too, but the cabinet will crowd toward your face a bit. I have to admit that I didn't draw a diagonal cabinet door there, just because I personally prefer the look of the 90 degree door, and you get a wider access to the inside of the cabinet. If you prefer the diagonal door, I can adjust that cabinet and give you a new rendering and new plan to see how it fits/how much counter you see in front of it, etc.

  • 17 years ago

    I have diagonal corner cabinets, both top and bottom, on both sides of my kitchen, and I love them and the extra counter space the bottom cabs give me. I store my mixer (KA Pro in the back with the white cover) under the upper cabinet with no problem. My mixer is too heavy to lift up and down so that back corner is a great place to store it.

  • 17 years ago

    Fori is correct, make sure that it will fit. I have 6 quart Kitchenaid mixer, and while it fits right where I planned for it (the upper cabinet is higher), it will not fit under most of the other cabinets.

  • 17 years ago

    momj47, thanks for the pictures. That really helps. If your lower cabinet was at 90 degree instead of diagonal, do you think you would still be able to use your mixer in that corner?

    I will definitely make sure the cabinets are installed high enough so the mixer will fit. It fits now, so we hadn't thought about the new cabinets being installed lower! Thanks.

    We are pretty sure that we will leave the lower cabinet at 90 degrees so we will have more space to work next to the range. We are concerned with the upper cabinet, though.

    Rhome, it would be helpful to see it in 3D if you get a chance. We are wondering if there will be enough counter space in front of that upper diagonal without crowding toward the face too much. Not sure if I'm explaining that well. Also, you said you prefer the look of the 90 degree corner. Do you use a door that hinges in the middle or is there wasted space?

    Thanks again.

  • 17 years ago

    I actually eliminated my corners, so I wouldn't have any corner cabinets in this kitchen...But yes, if I did, I would've had a hinge in the middle and should have no wasted space.

    I will get on that new 3D for you!

  • 17 years ago

    I tried to put a 'mixer' on the counter for you. The software doesn't have that option, so I got as close as I could. ;-) (It only shows in the first picture and the plan.)

  • 17 years ago

    I could store the mixer under the upper corner cabinet even without the extra diagonal counter at the corner, but it would take up valuable space. In your arrangement I'd probably end up putting the mixer in a cabinet, which I had to do in my old kitchen (my old mixer was much smaller, Sunbeam Mixmaster c. 1971). My old kitchen had that arrangement and there just wasn't enough countertop work space. That's the reason I had the bottom corner cabinets put on the diagonal and added the peninsula. Having those two corners makes such a huge difference. I have a Cuisinart toaster oven in the other corner. With those big diagonal corners, they are never in the workspace. For me, adding the extra counter space was an important issue in the remodel.

    My upper cabs are 18 1/4" above the countertop and the light rail is 1 1/2" which means there is 16 3/4" for the mixer. I added felt pads to the bottom so it slides easier and it (just) fits under the light rail.

    Good luck

  • 17 years ago

    In my current, not-long-for-this-world kitchen, I have diagonal upper corner cabs over right angle lower cabs. I find those corners pretty unusable as a workspace, though they do fine as "counter storage," like for a toaster oven as momj47 said (I have my microwave in one.)

    I am curious why you don't want to make the lower corners diagonal as well. You say you want more work space next to the range, but couldn't a diagonal (and deeper) counter area fulfill that function? I can see how it would force you to stand in front of the range a bit while you are prepping (or mixing), which might hinder access to that side of the range by another cook. Is that the issue? Or am I missing something?

    I'm asking because I think this question is going to come up for us, as we are planning to put our range about 15" from the corner. (We will not have corner uppers, though, diagonal or otherwise).

    I am eager to see what great insights you get from the wise experts here.

  • 17 years ago

    I thinnk it will be fine. My KA stand mixer sits on the counter all the time and there are about 6 inches of clearance above it. To use it, I pull it forward. You'll be fine with what you're describing, unless you have an unusually huge mixer!

  • 17 years ago

    I have the identical setup you are proposing and I love it.

    I have 30" deep counters though so that may make a difference and because of that I keep the mixer pushed back on the side next to the ovens (where your fridge is). We chose deeper counters so we could leave appliances out and still have room to work. With standard depth counters I would probably have left the KA in the corner where there is more room. In my kitchen that's almost the first corner you see as you walk in the room and I wanted a prettier look than a KA there IYKWIM ;-)

    Standing in corners to work is not impossible and while I hardly ever do it it's not uncomfortable and I'm no skinny chick, believe me.

    As others have said, make sure your KA fits under the cabinets otherwise you'll constantly have to move it and if it's a tilt head, make sure it fits with the head up. We're all tall so our cabinets are 18" from the counter (and 15" deep) and the KA fits with room to spare.

  • 17 years ago

    Viva99, here are the reasons I don't like a diagonal base cab: the diagonal base reduces the running length of counter you can use from each direction while still facing each. wall...Also intrudes on floor space making the kitchen area, and room to walk around each other, smaller...Only to make the corner cabinet and counter deeper, which I don't see as a plus. The diagonal door usually provides narrower access to and view of the contents of that deeper cabinet. At least it feels that way to me.

  • 17 years ago

    In my current, not-long-for-this-world kitchen, I have diagonal upper corner cabs over right angle lower cabs. I find those corners pretty unusable as a workspace, though they do fine as "counter storage," like for a toaster oven as momj47 said (I have my microwave in one.)

    I am curious why you don't want to make the lower corners diagonal as well. You say you want more work space next to the range, but couldn't a diagonal (and deeper) counter area fulfill that function? I can see how it would force you to stand in front of the range a bit while you are prepping (or mixing), which might hinder access to that side of the range by another cook. Is that the issue? Or am I missing something?

    I'm asking because I think this question is going to come up for us, as we are planning to put our range about 15" from the corner. (We will not have corner uppers, though, diagonal or otherwise).

    I am eager to see what great insights you get from the wise experts here.

  • 17 years ago

    Sorry, that last message got re-posted for no reason!

    Rhome, thanks for explaining the downside of diagonals. My intuitive preference was for right angles, but I didn't know how to justify it to those who proposed otherwise. Now I do!

  • 17 years ago

    viva99, I echo what rhome said about the downsides of a diagonal. Our original plan had a diagonal corner because we thought it looked nice with the corner sink. However, after doing a mock up we realized how difficlt it would be to reach that back corner, and we also liked having the longer runs of counter on each side.

    rhome, thanks for the 3d view. I'm starting to like the 90 degree upper...hmmm....more decisions!

    Thanks for all the other insight. Sounds like it will work either way.

  • 17 years ago

    I like how it looks with 90 degree corner... ties in better with 90 degree base. The angle wall cab seems to call for a matching angle on the base or at least an angle on the countertop there.

    Loves2cook4six-- seeing your kitchen always makes me smile!