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using sanded grout for stepping stone

16 years ago

Hi, new here. I've been collecting stained glass and broken dishes (helped that one of my kitchen cabinets fell off the wall!) for quite a while and am now ready to take the plunge making stepping stones. Plan to make them 12" x 2" deep and reinforce with chicken wire. (Most of the concrete pavers I saw at Home Depot were either broken or had big chunks at the corners already broken off and I didn't want to use these and have them break on me later on.)

Now, for my questions--I watched a video on making stepping stones where the artist used sanded grout for the entire stone, using the indirect method. I'm wondering if:

1. this will make a stepping stone as strong as a concrete/Quikrete stepping stone?

2. Or if I could use a colored sanded grout for a third to a half of the stone and Quikrete for the rest of the stone?

3. Or if I should pour a concrete/Quikrete stepping stone first, let cure, then adhere the design to the stone, grouting afterwards?

Thanks for your help.

Comments (17)

  • 16 years ago

    Welcome. Your third question is the answer. Grout is for grouting, concrete is for building. If I were making the steppers from scratch, I'd prefer to use the diamond lathe for reinforcement over chicken wire. You can add colorant to the water you use to mix your Crete. Be sure and show us pictures of your WIPs.

  • 16 years ago

    Welcome. Just wanted to add, if cost is no object, you can use Diamondcrete (I buy it at Hobby Lobby) and it is super easy and permanent; you don't have to reinforce it. However, it is pricey.

  • 16 years ago

    I would do it like Slow said...Klinger also puts her tesserae in her molds and then pours the concrete in.

  • 16 years ago

    Here's what I read somewhere if you do it like Klinger. Put your tesserae in the mold and then very carefully sift some sand over it. Just a little thin layer. Purpose being to help hold the tesserae in place. Then slowly and carefully pour the mixture. Then when you turn the stone out, brush off the excess sand, and then grout. I haven't done it this way myself.

  • 16 years ago

    Thanks, all of you, for your help. I didn't think it sounded right to use grout for the stone but wanted your advice. Diamond lathe it is.

    Now, I'm just back from Lowe's where I looked at Quikrete--didn't know there were so many kinds- -topping, mortar, concrete, pro mix, etc. Which kind should I use? I did see a liquid concrete colorant that I might use to make a darker stone, but if I adhere the glass and tiles to the stone after the stone is made, there is no point in coloring the concrete. Do you use thinset mortar to adhere the glass and tiles to the stone?

    China, I love your stones. Thanks for linking to them. So, you have made them both ways. Did you like one way better than the other?

    I am so excited to actually get started! Will post pictures along the way.
    Again, thanks for everyone's help.

  • 16 years ago

    The sunflower stone with the black grout was a true mosaic. I applied the glass to a pre-made stone and used black grout.

    Actually, I like pouring the stone. Don't know why but it seems to make a really smooth top. Never tried it with broken china (I use most of that for my jewelry) but will have to give that a try.

    Now that I think about it, for the stones I poured, I think I used regular concrete for the whole stone. When I poured the layer that goes around the mosaic, I sifted the dry concrete (yep, with my flour sifter) to get out all the little rocks and make a smooth surface.

    Good luck and definitely let us see your progress!!

  • 16 years ago

    China- get the quikcrete with no stones in it and then reinforce your stone with chicken wire or as Slow suggested the lath that is sold for stucco work. Get your thinset and grout back in the flooring dept of Lowes, Slow and I use Mapai and make sure the thinset you get is for outdoor use. Same with grout and use a sanded grout. The colorants are usually in the concrete dept with the Quikcrete, you can get rust, buff or charcoal I think but you're right you dont need color with the top covered. Good luck, hope this helps.

  • 16 years ago

    I realize all the pros have answered ur questions & u now have a plan in place. here is my 2 pennies anyway, I just re-made a table with china pieces (my first attempt at this, thank goodness it was just a practice piece) and obviously didnt place pieces close enuf (live & learn) and in the larger grouted areas, it cracked.... so I can only guess what a stepping stone would do.
    I made a beautiful eagle this week, and as soon as I figure it out again, I will post pics!!

  • 16 years ago

    No, I'm still in the planning stages, but getting more of a plan each day. Just need to make me a list from this post and take it to Lowe's. Hope to get started on it this weekend. It's a little intimidating to start but know I need to just jump right on in. Here goes...!

    Would love to see your eagle, Recycler!

    Thanks.

  • 16 years ago

    good info! I'm hoping to get the women on my street together this summer to make a bunch of these,
    I don't seem to be able to find the quick crete with no stones anymore tho I've gotten it in the past. Which color package is it? I don't remember.
    China I love love your house stepping stone in particular.
    Kathy

  • 16 years ago

    Try Quikcrete's Mortar Mix. That's what I used on my front fountain. It has finer pebbles, but you can get a smooth finish using a wet paint brush.

  • 16 years ago

    Stepping stones, here I come!

  • 16 years ago

    Yaaaaaay - pictures of WIPs, please.

  • 16 years ago

    Hello,
    I cut & grind my glass, apply glass to clear shelf paper ( wait a day for it to settle) then spread vaseoline jelly in my mold, mix my concrete.
    I use sand mix & add a polyfiber (just a pinch) which gives it its strength (make sure that you mix this very well). About 17 cups of concrete to 4-5 cups water for a 16 in. round mold (give or take). Then pour into mold & gently tap mold to get rid of any air bubbles. Wait a couple of days, un-mold & peel off shelf paper. I usually don't put mine out in the sun for a couple of weeks. Good luck.

  • 16 years ago

    Slow, that fountain is the bomb.
    Kathy

  • 16 years ago

    Why do not you think to design your own stone mosaic.
    Its easy and you can find line art guide on web for mosaic designing.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Design Your Mosaic

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