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Major Trim & Redecorating Issues

17 years ago

I have been reading posts here for ages and I have finally decided try it out! My husband & I just recently purchased his childhood home. The style (exterior) of the home is French Provincial. It was built over 20 years ago and they used a ton of Ash wood throughout...floors, moldings, cabinets, doors and windows! It is a large home and somewhat of an open floor plan. I am pulling my hair out over what to do as we start our remodel.

In our previous home we used a cabinet recoating method to redo our kitchen on a shoestring budget and it turned out amazing! We plan to do the same with our current kitchen...we would like to have white cabinets with dark countertops & island (the island you see will remain with different tops)

We will be removing the large black box that you see hanging down as well as the pot rack and pendant lights so it will really open up to the family room. There are also built in bookshelves in the family room and the living room.

Here are my questions:

1. Can we keep the crown molding in the kitchen natural wood? Our plan is have white subway tile above the cabinets.

2. If we need to change the crown in the kitchen can we just change it in this room as well as the window or does that mean we would have to change it throughout the house?

3. I would also like to change the built-ins to white and have a white mantle with a smoke or black glass subway tile surround. Same question about the crown, do I change it to all white or leave the natural crown. If I do it all white, can I leave the rest of the room natural? Do the cabinets need to be the same white as the kitchen? Our painter suggested a lacquer finish for the built-ins and mantle...opinions?

4. We have more Ash built-ins in the living room, we have already reconfigured the shelving but as you will see, it presents the same problem. Suggestions for shelving color and wall color would be appreciated. I am thinking black for the shelving but the same issue applies with the crown & trim. This room stands somewhat alone so I feel like we can make changes a bit more easily.

At first I just wanted to go through the house and paint all of the trim and doors white, but not only is it super expensive (or time consuming if we do it ourselves), I am starting to doubt getting rid of all of the wood. The doors are really quite attractive (not quite as yellow as they look in the pics) and while I know it would look sharp to go all white, I am looking for a compromise.

I am also planning to get rid of the dark paint you see in the pictures, so any suggestions you may have would be appreciated!

OHI almost forgotÂI would like to do the dining room with white molding and paint it a vibrant colorÂdo you think this would work if the rest of the molding in the house remains natural?

I really hope this all makes sense...after looking at the pictures please let me know what you think...or if you would like to see more pics, please let me know!!

THANK YOU!

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Comments (9)

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    You probably already know the house is great as-is even though it was built over 20 years ago (LOL-I thought that must have been a typo and you meant 200 years until I saw the pics!)

    1. I have seen crown molding that differs from cabinet colors but typically I have seen white crown with wood cabs. I think'll it will look fine since the ash crown will be in alignment with the rooms next to it that are open. Will any cabs be left as-is? That might help tie the crown to the rest of the room(s).

    2. In my old kitchen I had white trim (and crown) in the kitchen with maple cabinets and also oak stairs (with white spindles). The floor was maple. I think you can mix but you have to consider where you will switch from painted to wood to make sure it is not glaringly obvious.

    3. I'd keep the same white as the eye sees it in the great room and the kitchen. It doesn't have to be exact but I guess I would not go cream with one and bright white with other. So long as the lacquer is not really shiny, I think that is standard (but I'm no expert). I'm not visualizing the black subway though. It seems a bit more contemporary than the rooms will be..have you considered slate or granite or even a tan stone (faux or real)?

    4. I think you can paint the living room built-in's and leave the crown alone. I'd do whatever you end up doing in the kitchen.

    5. You didn't ask but the answer is "yes, I am lazy and I would not touch any of this. It is nice as-is and way too much painting for my energy level!!!"

    Good luck with whatever you decide. I cannot wait to see others' responses who are much less lazy than I am/much more creative and with a better design eye!

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I am trying to bump you as I think you have a lot of good questions. You may also try posting with the pics in the kitchen forum!

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks whenicit! I am going to post in the kitchen forum as well and see what we get. I am really leaning toward embracing what we have...which is definitely nice...and if I ever win the lottery or the gift of hours and hours of time, I might go all white someday! I realized that if I wanted to go all white I would also have to paint every single wall and that is just not in the cards right now!!

    What do you think about leaving the cabinets in the family room (off the kitchen)natural but going with a white mantle and white tile of some sort??

  • 17 years ago
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    making the link

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  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    My own personal feelings: why dedicate yourself to all the painting...and the touch-up painting that is sure to follow; when it looks SO GREAT already?
    The wood is super nice quality, unless the pictures deceive me. I'd be sad to paint over such beautiful wood!

    Sometimes tastes change. But once you go "there", you really can't go back. Maybe you are in love with a vision of painted trim in your head (I am too!) but if I moved into a house with such great woodwork; I'd definitely reconsider my preconceptions. Honor the wood.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Hi there:
    I haven't posted much on this site, but I'm in the middle of a big remodel myself and have been agonizing over many of these same decisions. I really love the look of painted cabinets and trim, so if it were me I would paint it all. You have such amazing space in that HUGE kitchen and family room area and i absolutely love the black island color. So, I would paint all the kitchen cabinets a clean off white or buttery cream color and do a dark counter, but keep the island black and maybe do a beautiful wood counter on that. Then, I would paint the trim, crown and built-ins a different shade of white/off white. I think your kitchen looks really great as is, but I understand the inclination to paint. Incidentally, I don't think you need to reface the cabinets, just have them painted and maybe switch the knobs.

    Good luck!

  • 17 years ago
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    Hi, my two cents is that you could paint out the kitchen cupboards, then leave the FR wood as is. I would paint the molding on the cabinets as well but NOT the FR molding, as the FR molding is on the ceiling, different level.

    Another option that would minimize some of the wood you have (which is beautiful BTW!) is to leave the kitchen cabinets as is (using dark countertops & switching the knobs to oil-rubbed bronze) and then take out some wood in the FR. You might consider removing upper shelves in the FR, taking them right out and drywalling it. That way you could make a dedicated spot for your TV.

    Another thing that came to mind is to switch out your stools to a lower stool or a stool without a back. This would visually open up the room.

    Beautiful space, love the idea of dark countertops. Painting your cabinets or left wooden, it will look great!

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Sorry, forgot to add on the option of taking out the shelving in the FR, I would widen the drywall piece over the fireplace to the same width as the fireplace...

    Also forgot to mention another idea - that you might consider a cream tumbled marble or something other than white for the backsplash, that way you could keep your SS appliances.