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Need Design Input

18 years ago

The information in this forum is tremendous. I've used info for my sister kitchen gut/redo and for my bathroom. Now it's time for the bigger project. We are building a new house, we've bought the lake property and now are trying to come up with a floor plan. There are just hubby, dog and myself. We are trying to maintain a small footprint about 1425 sf main floor (including hubby's hobby room 139sf in the garage). The upstairs is 512 sf for a total of 1938.

So I'm hitting a few challenges. What input/ideas/suggestions/likes/dislikes do you see with our kitchen plan. Or any other part of the plan. We won't be sending off to the architect for "real" drawings until early next week. So any input is appreciated.

Comments (6)

  • 18 years ago

    How wide are your kitchen aisles? Looks like you have lots of room between the island and the windows that look out on the covered porch, so you could afford to move the island out a bit, if needed.

    No table? Only island seating? The island looks to be about 9 ft...Do you know you probably won't fit 7 people there? 5 people, side by side, is tighter than recommended for 9 ft, and people's legs coming in from the ends will make it worse. Maybe 6...5 would be most comfortable if you're using the ends. It's recommended to have at least 15" of overhang for counter height seating. It looks like you have 12". But as I said above, you could make the island a little deeper and not crowd the sitters against the window wall. Have you considered an arced overhang so people can see each other better for conversation?

    Where will you store your dishes? I'd make sure the dw is on the side of the sink closest to dish storage. At the end where it is currently, the open dw could conflict with the open fridge.

    I can't imagine that closet behind the wall ovens being useful at all. The area that is deep enough to hold things will be a tough reach from the small door.

    On main floor mbath...It'll be hard to stand in the toilet room and open the door in to be able to get out.

    On both masters...The closets, because of door placement will only allow L-shaped storage which is not the most efficient, because of the corners. I'm afraid those closets won't hold much. I'd prefer to have the door centered with rods down each side wall, rather than the L. You might want to draw in the configuration of rods and add lines to represent the full width of clothes hanging on hangers to see how much usable room they offer.

    You won't need an entry closet? I like your back entry set-up.

    Overall, I like the kitchen, and like the house...Looks very cute, and comfortable for 2.

    Best wishes!

  • 18 years ago

    because you said lake house, i'd wish the view from the stools wasn't of the kitchen, but of the lake and greenery.
    I'd like to "turn" the cook, too, to be at least edge on to the view when cooking...

    So this is two alternates for the seating area and it makes the kitchen a bit smaller. blue arrows are views.
    {{!gwi}}

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks for the input! I need to work on the kitchen seating, you are right we need to use the view. bmorepanic I like the thought of the arched top for conversation.

    rhome410 thanks for your thoughts on the amount of space needed for the island seating. We just drew in seating, not really looking at what space was needed for each seat. 4-5 is probably more realistic of the number of stools we'll have. Great catch on the dishwasher/fridge conflict, i'll have to look at that when we move the island around. I thought about that closet in the laundry room and would use it for "small kitchen appliances", but didn't think about getting them out, good point. The master baths and closets have been a challenge to get what I want in the small spaces. Hoping to get more input on other alternatives for these areas.

    Thanks for all the input and keep it coming.

  • 18 years ago

    Those covered porches are coming at a premium cost. That is, you're buying a proper roof but are giving up floor space on the main level and the basement. Also, the offsets make the excavation & construction of the basement walls more complicated & expensive per sq ft relative to what straight walls would cost. Also, exposing a big chunk of the house roof to potential uplifting winds weakens the entire structure.

    As drawn, down the road, you will probably run into foundation support issues when you want to convert the porch to sunroom if you want to do anything more than just screen it in.

    I'd give a good look at incorporating the future sunroom into the house now rather than later and add an attached porch/ covered patio/ carport to the gable end, bumpout side of the house.

  • 18 years ago

    I love your house overall, Alto. It's going to be really nice. The main that hit me is that the basic function of dining needs to be better covered, including, as mentioned, a prime position for your everyday dining.

    Ci Lantro makes a good point that a properly constructed porch will include most of the cost of a completed sunroom anyway. If possible, instead of a separate small sunroom, you might consider a year-round sun bay in your main living area, perhaps smaller than the porch but more functional overall because of the synergy of combining spaces.

    Of course, you gotta have a porch for living outside living, too. Maybe without need for thick foundation, supporting walls, solid roof, et cetera, a significantly less-expensive porch could also be constructed. A pergola's wonderful for dining under, and the birds like to keep you company there.

  • 18 years ago

    Totally agree you need access to bathroom from outside without going through the kitchen. The laundry room has way too many doors. I'd find a way to eliminate some of those doors.