Freakles81, good luck with your kitchen planning, I, unfortunately, cannot help you with your new "plan" for your kitchen, but, I know there are many on here who have fantastic ideas. I wanted to tell you, I don't know if your walls are the old color or your new color, but, that's about the color I plan on painting my walls, my cabinets are golden oak, instead of white though, I hope it'll all look nice once I do it :) Good luck

Have you had a chance to read the "Read Me" thread? It has several topics that I think would help you with designing your new kitchen. There are threads that discuss topics like work zones and good layout advice (like workspace in each work zone and around fixtures and appliances, overhangs, aisle widths, etc.) as well the "Layout Help" topic that describes the information we need to help you find the best layout for you and your family.

You have some of the information (e.g., the fact that you cannot move or change doors), but there is a lot of other information that would be very helpful (e.g., what is your family composition and, if you have children, your children's ages; how do you plan to user your kitchen, etc.).

Additionally, when posting a layout for comments on or help with, post it in the message itself, not as a link. Also, we need additional information about your floor plan - the widths of each door/doorway/window/wall and the distances b/w each door/doorway/window/wall.

I've linked the "Read Me" thread below.

One thing I thought I'd mention is that when measuring overhangs, aisles, etc., keep in mind that counters generally overhang cabinets by 1.5", so that needs to be taken into account in any measurements.

Is your island going to be all one level (recommended) or will it be bi-level?

I strongly recommend increasing the seating overhang to 15" (the minimum recommended for counter-height). If you're a tall family, then I recommend 18".

As you will see when you check out the Layout Help topic, we need the following additional measurements:

Larger version, if needed:

Good luck!

Here is a link that might be useful: New To Kitchens? Posting Pics? Read Me!

sorry about the goof up freckles81

This post was edited by TiaC on Wed, May 22, 13 at 1:59

once again I apologise.

This post was edited by TiaC on Wed, May 22, 13 at 2:01

Tiac you need to start your own thread.

I would prefer the option where sink is near the fridge.

As to the window you'll loose, having an opening window on the door may be a solution. But I don't know if the breeze would be a problem when you are cooking if you'll use gas.

I would also prefer tile flooring in kitchens. Here is what we have b/w entry and LR for transition. I think they are called treshold trims.

Here is a link that might be useful: OPENING WINDOW DOORS

Sorry I did browse the new to kitchens post but didn't read the whole thing. Two adults live in this house, I'm fairly short and my bf is around 5' 8". The overhang we have on our current island is around 12" and serves our purposes. We don't really eat at the island it's more for sitting when one person is doing something in the kitchen or guests are over. People entering the house are coming in from the kitchen door so I can't extend the island too far into that area.

The window locations are changeable and like I said the doorways are not. The only wall that can be knocked down is into the dining room. I cook most nights and I bake as well.

Also 4" of the 36" of the fridge would be underneath the support beam.
Here are the measurements you requested:
A. 104 1/4"
B. 43 5/8"
C. 34"
D. 59"
E. 101 1/2"
F. 31" (32" door swings out)
G. 5 3/8"
H. 101 1/2"
I. 30"
J. 4 1/8"
K. 4 1/8"
M. 133 3/4"
N. 137 3/8"
O. 139 1/8"

P. 35 1/8"
Q. 34 1/2"
R. 31 7/8"

Current Layout
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Option 1
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Option 2
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This post was edited by freckles81 on Mon, May 20, 13 at 21:41

Your kitchen/DR setup looks a lot like mine. We were intending to do a peninsula since we actually do want a sense of separation between the two rooms (I say 'were' because our project is on hold). You might find some useful ideas on my old thread, which I've linked to below.

Is there by any chance a coat closet on the other side of the bottom kitchen wall? We have one there, and were intending to recess our fridge into that closet. If you've got a similar setup, perhaps you could turn the closet around to open into the kitchen and use that as a pantry space. I think personally I'd find the pantry cabinets in the dining room a bit intrusive.

Here is a link that might be useful: old thread on small kitchen/dining room

On the other side of the kitchen (where i have pantry cabinets in the new layout) there is currently a coat closet in the dining room. But having a fridge jammed in the corner doesn't seem like it would work functionally.

I like Option 1 the best. For the pantry cabinets in the dining room, I'd suggest doing shallow 12" deep pantries all along a single wall. It will give the adjacent DR more balance and cohesiveness.

Flying_C your layout looks very similar to mine except we don't have closets in the hallway, there is a chimney running through the house where your closet behind the kitchen is.

Valinsv that could be an option. We would be losing a coat closet in the dining room and if I had two pantry cabinets, one would be for hanging coats. That possibly isn't a necessity though.