We need something more to work from...Maybe a drawing on graph paper or something with a grid, showing the boundaries of the kitchen, and maybe bits of the rooms around it, so we can see how the traffic patterns might work...And ideally, an indication of the plan you have in mind. What you've posted is too vague and empty to sink our teeth into for you. Seems like you're going to spend a lot to turn around and replace everything in 2 years? But that's your right, of course. We need to know what appliances and fixtures you're planning...For example 30" range, or something like a rangetop and wall ovens? Do you want the layout now to be what it should be ultimately...In other words, will you plan to replace the cabinets and appliances, but retain the layout?

Wow, it looks like you have taken it almost down to the skeleton. How exciting to be able to re-design it basically from scratch. I love the location and the views. You certainly are right. This house has the potential to be amazing.

If you can give some more details about what you are thinking, about the layout, and some more pictures of specific areas it would easier for others to give some input.

Yes, the house has potential, but your goals and objectives are fuzzy, and the speed at which you are moving is not giving you enough time to think and plan. I agree with Rhome that you did not give anyone enough to work with in terms of getting advice here. Spend some time reading the "are you new to this forum" thread and you'll find lots of helpful advice on clarifying your goals with this remodel.

I'd never heard of Al Beadle until I just googled him. Honestly, if you have a house of significant historical and/or architectural interest, I would hire an architect or designer. Free advice on the internet is a great supplement and sounding board, but it's not a substitute for professional advice tailored to what sounds like a unique situation.

What a beautiful and unique home! I was intrigued by your post and pics so I did some searching. Please google Phoenix Modern and click on architects. Your home is there! There are also message boards there. Scroll down to Al Beadle knowledgebase and you might be interested to know that there is a sister house to your home! Maybe owner would let you see it??? Good luck. Your home, I'm sure, will be truly amazing someday. Rome wasn't built in a day! Time and money. Please post pics of reno as we would all enjoy seeing your progress.

I think my post was too vague and I apologize. I am looking mostly for input as to where the oven/stove/cooktop might go so that we can route things that direction while the soffit is open/the plumber and electrician are here. Would you add an island? Should the cooktop go in the island? Is it bad to have a cooktop/range not facing the open living/dining room?

The house was in terrible condition when purchased. It was unoccupied for three yrs.and apparently not well kept before then. I am trying to restore the house somewhat to its original facade (I have original architecture plans). I have torn down a wall added to the kitchen, torn out an ugly large quartz fireplace, restoring the original mid-century block pillars that were stucco'ed over, etc.. To make this house liveable, I am having to replace the 7000 sq. foot roof (not cheap), repair all the interior and exterior water damage, tear up the filthy bug-ridden carpet and 1980's tile and re-finish concrete floors, paint exterior and interior, major drywall repair, replace broken windows and doors, redo pool including all electrical and plumbing (20k), repair damaged patio roof, and the list goes on. Eventually, I will hire an architect to reconfigure parts of the house (kitchen, expand master bath into walk-in closet, make den and back bedroom/bath into second master with his/her baths, etc.) But for now, I just want it clean, not leaking, bug free, liveable. I need to live in it awhile to know what I really want. If I decide to change the appliance set up later, so be in. Below is the kitchen as it looks today.

Here is a link that might be useful: june 25

And thank you for all the nice comments. I have always wanted a beadle and I cant believe I actually own one. It is neat to see some of the things I saw in another beadle home...his specially made faucets, the fir walls and siding, his use of mid century block. The house even had a master switch to turn off lights individually form the master bedroom. In 1958 no less! Unfortunately, the lights need to be rewired.

door1, that website and pics helped convince me to purchase the home. There was a newspaper article published on this home when it was built and the original pics are really neat. time and money is right!

that's a great article. is yours a Saguaro?

location, location, location - and you got it! awesome!

in order to help you out we'll need some info - the size of the space you want to use as the kitchen. how much space is there now? is it an eat in kitchen? is that what you want? do you want the sink under a window? cook top / wall ovens or range? do you want a regular range -30 or 36" or one of those huge commercial type ranges? gas? electric?

is there anything you can think of that you WOULD want in a kitchen (besides normal stuff like sink, fridge)

what kind of roof are you putting on?

If this was my house, I would work on concepts that allowed me to face either the living room or the view out the back or both.

So, I'm tempted to build a wall of tall and not-so-tall containing a dumping area near the carport entrance, then mostly storage with perhaps a coffee/bar utilizing the existing plumbing, site the ref near the entry door on the original clean up wall. Then maybe ovens and perhaps cleanup on the laundry room wall with extra-deep counters making up for lack of length. The ovens could also be worked into the ref run.

Then have a 10 foot long island parallel to the glass wall with cooktop and prep sink. I'd leave a 5 foot aisle between the ref/window run and the island to make up for the passageway behind the cooktop/prep zone. Position stools so they looked out the old sink window...

I love your MCM home. And I love even more that you love it. So many are torn down so "grander" things can be built (your neighbors, it appears). You've gotten good advice so far. I'd also recommend you frequent a board that I also frequent ( http://www.lottaliving.com/bb ), which specializes in all things MCM. You will find a great deal of experienced and sage advice there. I also found this site ( http://www.modernphoenix.net ) and I'll bet you'll find another Arizonan who can come over and help you brainstorm or offer a referral to a sympathetic kitchen designer.

First, there is a lot to consider when planning a kitchen, from the size and capacity of the cooker (gas, convection, range or cooktop + ovens?) and fridge (built-in, standard?) to the wiring (outlet locations, phone, cable, low-voltage, internet wiring?) and lighting. The conventional wisdom is to live with it for a year and se how it works. But you're already at gut stage, so you have to do something now.

If you're looking at IKEA Varde, you might as well go ahead and look at the Akurum cabinets. The price won't be much different and you'll have something that you may want to keep for the long haul. I stressed for months over the exact arrangement of the cabinets, but it doesn't have to take that long. Particularly if you're dealing pretty much with two straight shots of cabinetry.

While your home is architect-designed and mine is a BH&G stock plan, I can see similarities. I'll give you a link to my kitchen and maybe you'll get some ideas. My kitchen area is roughly 18' x 8'. It is open on one side to an interior atrium (similar to your window view) and is set up as a galley. Range and fridge on the back wall, and sink on the island wall facing the "view". Something like this might work for you.

Good luck!

Here is a link that might be useful: MCM open galley kitchen

an IKEA kitchen (not mine). I think it is a gw kitchen.

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Thank you for your help! It sounds like I should plan for a grill in the island and not a range. I just need to figure out if the island should go parallel to the kitchen sink counter (under the window) and face out side or should it go down side perpendicular to the front door, looking out at the dr/lr. I am going to try to draw it on ikea kitchen planner.

jakabedy - your house is amazing! I absolutely love the high ceilings, windows and the beautiful kitchen! I will check out the website you recommend.

desrtsteph, that is a nice kitchen. I have ikea in my current house (white abstract with concrete counter) and couldnt be happier. I think ikea is an amazing deal. I may use the ikea system again.

Couple things to consider:
Have fun with the house. It is a stunning house. I have been remodeling our house for many years. We keep making modifications. The reality is that you get to make the house exactly the way you want it....

I think visually, the islands are nicer looking out to the exterior view rather than interior view, if you can make it happen that way.

I can't tell if the house is built on concrete slab or not. My guess is yes. If so, moving plumbing and electrical can be expensive. (interior quality finish concrete that looks good is expensive if you end up having finish quality concrete... ) So this is something you need to think through as you are doing now.

Unless you move the kitchen, there are only two long runs of cabinets that can happen, and that's about it. This is what I would do if I were you, I would have them put gas stub on both runs of cabinets. So later on, you can move the range/cooktop easily, if you end up flopping the configuraion. I would also make sure you have 240V on both runs of cabs as well. This allows you to place electrical ovens. I would also stub hot/cold water on both runs of cabinets. This will cost not that much more in your total house infrastructure upgrade. Later on when you bring in an architect with a larger budget, then you have couple "expensive" basics covered....

We put in CAT5/phone/cable in all the rooms. Even with wireless, I think it is nice to have the wiring....

For now, I would really focus on the infrastructure. For example, have them put in extra wiring to make solar panels happen later. If you have the wiring ready, then they do not have to tear into the walls. In AZ, you may be able to generate enough power to run your AC. Our friends Palm Springs is able to do this. You also need plumbing ready if you plan on putting solar water heater. For the pool, it may be nice.

The reality is that you have an enpensive house and in a nice neighborhood. You will need to upgrade to that level of expectation. Don't skimp on infrastructure...

Thanks for the compliment on our house. We love it, too, and I love trying to help others get their MCM "right". Looking at your plan, it hit me that there is no wall (even a partial wall) separating the kitchen from the main entry. My concern is that if you just put the kitchen in there, it will give the main entry sort of a back-door feel -- walking in and doffing your coat, keys and purse on the kitchen counter. I know you'll mainly enter through the carport, but I think it might be better to bring back a little separation for the "formal" entry.

Consider that a wall would give you a small amount of an L-shape and would allow for pantries, wall ovens, coffee center, etc. in that spot. And the focus upon entering is on the rock wall and the view ahead rather than being pulled in multiple directions.

That house, as my mom would say, has "good bones"! Congrats on snagging it.

In the second photo in the big album, what is that lovely curved stainless steel hanging from the ceiling? If that is a vent hood for over the stove, I would save it if possible. You might be able to put an updated fan inside to provide more drawing power. You could possibly even relocate it.

If you are not sure yet what you want in terms of appliances, I would just plan for a stove/oven combo right now. You can add ovens and switch to a cooktop later, if you decide that's an emphasis in your cooking. That will save on appliance costs.

It will be easier and less expensive to find a vent hood that runs along a wall, rather than above an island. If you decide to go with an island cooktop, make sure you get a vent hood that is 6" more around than your cooking surface. There are some very neat hoods that can telescope downward when you need lots of sucking power, and move up out of your headroom when you don't.

I agree with the recommendation above about running gas lines and heavy electrical to several locations, to give yourself flexibility for later on.

Another area to save $ on right now would be countertop. If you are putting in a layout that you are likely to change within 3-5 years, I would definitely go with formica for right now.

You may want to visit a higher-end kitchen cabinet vendor or two now, even if you're not planning to put in anything like their product till later. Most certified kitchen designers provide initial layout ideas for free, and then when you order cabinets from them, they earn their fee as a percentage of the cabinet order.

Enjoy getting to know your new space!

Thank you so much for the replies! To desertsteph, I missed your earlier post.

"that's a great article. is yours a Saguaro? " No, this was a custom designed home for a family in a different neighborhood.

In answer to your questions, I think I want the sink under the window, gas, and I dont know - maybe built in ovens when I am ready for the remodel. The total kitchen sq. footage is 254 sq. feet. I am thinking of moving a wall back that has the washer and dryer on the other side. I would make the wall flush with the glass behind.

"is there anything you can think of that you WOULD want in a kitchen (besides normal stuff like sink, fridge)." No, except maybe an undercounter wine cooler.

"what kind of roof are you putting on?" It will just be an asphalt roof, but I am still getting bids. The roof is so huge, that the cost is astronomical.

kaismom-thankyou. I will inquire about adding the cat5/phone/etc. while the electrician is there tomorrow. I think adding two gas hookups is a good idea. I'll ask about the solar water heater as well.

Hi eastbay- that was the original vent made for the kitchen. There was a circular barbecue under it. We took it down. I am going to save it. The ikea varde cabs. come with the counters...so for 2k or less, I can have it all done, except for appliances. When I decide to do the kitchen right, I will either sell them or maybe move then into a guest house, if I build one.

http://www.channel4.com/4homes/images/mb/Channel4/4homes/design-and-style/design-by-space/kitchen/freestanding-kitchens/9-IKEA-Kitchen-126-lg--gt_full_width_landscape.jpg

I'm attaching a layout of the original kitchen. Beadle's kitchen was removed and this kitchen was put in, along with the wall by the entry doors, which we removed. There was a closet by the entry doors which the last owners cut into to add their built in oven. There was no space in the closet because of this. I do think I should add some sort of divider, or small wall between it and the kitchen. If I move the wall back where it says fridge/double ovens, it will add another three feet of linear space to the kitchen. Then the new wall will be flush with the glass wall corner. Right now the washer dryer are on that side.

Here is a link that might be useful: