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Cabinet Layout Help

15 years ago

Hi everyone. I'm slowly working on a fixer upper house and have found this site to be more valuable than anyone or any other place!

I currently planning my kitchen and have a first cut at my cabinets. I was hoping I could get some feedback on the overall look of the cabinets. The kitchen is 13' by 13' and occupies the corner of a 20' by 26' great room. My dining room will be next to it and my living room will be in front of both.

While I like much of what I have, I was unsure about several things. Hopefully people's experiences can help guide me...

1) I feel like the top of the cabinetry doesn't look good. The crown comes to within 4" of my ceiling (I have 8' ceilings) and it seems a bit uninteresting. Should I consider lowering the heights of the wall cabinets by 6", but leave the pantry, corner, and fridge wall cabinets at their current heights?

2) If I change the heights, how would I join the crown on the lower cabinets when it ends at the corner cabinet without blocking the corner from opening?

3) Have most people preferred non-angled corner cabinets to angled? They seem more functional, but much less aesthetically pleasing.

4) I'm favoring the American Woodmark lines because I've found designs I liked and the price is in my budget. However, their fridge end panels max out at counter depth, not standard fridge depth. Have people found that it looks bad to use a standard fridge in this situation?
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Thanks!

Justin

Comments (7)

  • 15 years ago

    Howdy! A few thoughts:

    - Your range is too close to your sink. The area between water and fire is a prime prep space in a kitchen, even if there's an island there. Scootch the range away a bit. It will also look better and make that arm of the kitchen less monolithic.

    - You have your hood in a cabinet. If you want to break up the Great Wall of cabinet look, change that out to a metal hood or something.

    - Folks disagree about angled cabinets. No, they don't look as nice. My upper works OK for me, because of what I store there (bowls of every size). I don't think it's a good candidate for a glass window, however. As far as the lowers go, that depends on what you want to store. Angled lowers have much smaller door openings, so they are OK for canned goods (but you have a pantry) but much less functional for pots, pans, small appliances and the like--which is the kind of stuff you probably should be storing there, given where your corner is.

    - Cab depth end panels means your above-fridge cabinet can't be pulled forward to the full depth of the fridge. Makes them less useful and looks funny IMO.

    - With only a 4" gap between crown and ceiling, close it up with a crown or trim and run the cabs straight to the ceiling. Will look cleaner and make your ceiling look taller.

    HTH

  • 15 years ago

    I agree with shifting the range over to the left to create more counter space in the prep area between range and sink.

    I would also recommend a dedicated range hood and separate microwave. The counter or above the counter to the left of the range would be a good location.

    I would not put a wine cubby between the DW and fridge. They both produce heat and vibration and anything kept in there for long will turn to vinegar.

    You could use an additional tall panel to increase the depth of the fridge enclosure and to pull the over the fridge cabinet forward for the standard depth fridge.

    I have also done this to accomodate a full depth fridge: A drywall enclosure with the over-the-fridge cabinet pulled all the way forward.

  • 15 years ago

    Yea, I see what you mean about pulling the wall cabinet and fridge returns out. Kraftmaid has the 32" returns. I'm also going to expore what you guys said about using a seperate hood instead of the microwave over the range. I went back to the KD yesterday and left there with even more things to try. Guess I'm not as close as I thought to a finished plan :(

  • 15 years ago

    You might consider going with taller uppers, then using some flat moulding before the crown. That way you build up a moulding to bring the crown the ceiling.

  • 15 years ago

    At the risk of sounding like a tasteless neophite, I don't think it's so horrible to have the cabs over the fridge be shorter than the fridge.
    Mine is currently like that and I actually find it very useful. Things I hardly EVER use go in the top cabinet (what IS up there?) and I put decorative stuff on top of the fridge.
    Alright, I admit, sometimes cereal and snacks find their way up there too but we REALLY use our kitchen space. Plus, this way I dont lose any storage space OR have a lost cavern behind the fridge.
    Not sure why it's bad design to see the top of a fridge.

    Besides, building out wall space or getting bigger cabs just adds a bit more to the cost, which I can't help thinking about since I have very little budget myself. I do think the built-in look is lovely but we don't all need them, do we?

  • 15 years ago

    Some people solve the "cavernous" aspect of the the over the fridge cabinet by using a regular cabinet depth of 13" and just pulling it forward. That way things can only be stored as they would be in any upper. If its cereal boxes and such they just go in the cabinet instead of on top of the fridge, because its the same spot.

  • 15 years ago

    I didn't feel that leaving a 24" deep cabinet above the fridge would bother me at all, but a friend's kitchen has that setup, and it is noticeable. She said it annoyed her, not enough to fix, but she wouldn't have accepted it if she had control over how it was built. Seems safer to just extend it out to 32".

    How difficult is it to install trim up where the cabinets meet the ceiling? Drywall is never perfectly level and ripping the top parts off of crown to get a no-gap fit sounds horrid.