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Dining room chandelier

17 years ago

Hi helpful decorating forum colleagues..I'm in the process of renovating the kitchen and decided to possibly replace my DR chandelier. The DR is visible from the working part of the kitchen but is a separate room. Here's a picture of the current chandelier and furniture type. Please ignore the mess --I'm storing the contents of my kitchen cabinets here for the kitchen re-do. It doesn't usually look like the inside of a closet.

The current brass fixture has always looked too small for the room and the table-- even though it looks proportional in the picture. I'm bothered by the shades--they always look crooked, but I don't like the uncovered bulbs.

I am thinking about this Murray Feiss chandelier. It's about 5" wider and 6" taller. I like the thicker arms and it's 'presence' but am wondering how well it fits with the room, in general. I've looked at about 'a million' of these in person and on line.

Opinions and suggestions greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Current DR and chandelier

http://i495.photobucket.com/albums

photobucket.com/albums/rr315/msrgardner/DRchandelier.jpg

NEW CHANDELIER

http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/msrgardner/Murray-Feiss-Benson-Townhouse-Colle.jpg

Comments (22)

  • 17 years ago

    I much prefer the one you already have -- it's a classic.

  • 17 years ago

    I agree with mjlb. It is classic and fits well with the style of the room. Have you thought about just replaceing the shades with slightly larger ones?

    Here is a link that might be useful: shades

  • 17 years ago

    I like your current chandelier and this it goes.

    I do have a few ways to make it larger and change it's look a bit - this is my chandelier at Christmas, I added the beads to change its look, but what I wanted to show you is the dark shades that I added trim to.

    That would make a big difference in yours as well.

    Jim

  • 17 years ago

    Please add me to the list of those who prefer the current one.

    Can you give us the dimensions of the room, the table top and the current chandelier? As you said, it does APPEAR to be in proportion now.

  • 17 years ago

    I think that your chandelier may just be too high. If you lowered it so that the bottom was no more than 36" above the table, it would probably look better proportioned to the table.

  • 17 years ago

    The table is 42" wide, expands with 2 leaves to something like 112", and the room is 14'x 15'. '

    chandelier is 24" wide & the table could take a 30" wide one; I also have 9ft ceilings; The chandelier really looks like it is floating in the room which, even with the extra furniture,feels large. I feel like the room needs something more substantial -- the arms are very thin.

    Thanks for all opinions.

  • 17 years ago

    I prefer the one you have. Lower it until the large ball at the base is about 30 inches above the table.

    You might try some Rub and Buff on it for an antique brass look.

  • 17 years ago

    I agree with the above posts. Your current chandelier is very attractive and seems to be at home in the room. I see how the shades look a little crooked. Wonder how that happens. I'd suggest lowering it to about 30" above the table as graywings says, then use a level to straighten out the shades. Once you lower the fixture it will be easier to straighten.

    There's nothing wrong with the chandelier you chose. I do like it, but I think you don't need to spend the money. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, buy a huge roast and invite us all over for dinner. LOL, of course.

  • 17 years ago

    I really like the new chandelier and frankly don't care for the large ball at the base of the old one. However, I wonder how the color of the new one would fit in with your room which has so many gold/beige tones in it. Does the new one come in only that one color? If so, I'm afraid it would not be a good choice for your dining room.

  • 17 years ago

    I have almost the exact same chandelier as you have, only without the shades and it's in my entryway. I've never gotten the shades because I was afraid they'd look crooked. I understand perfectly where you're coming from in wanting to replace it and just wanting a new look. I've been looking at different fixtures & contemplating painting mine black or just about anything to make it look different.

    While I love the look of the new chandelier you're considering, I really don't think the pewter/platinum color will fit in with your room as well as the brass fixture does. Like ingrid said you have so many golden tones in your room and the current fixture blends well.

    If you really want to replace it, I'd look for something that would blend with the golden tones.

    If you would consider modifying your current fixture, the things I'd try are lowering it a bit, changing (spray painting) the shiny brass to more of bronze or an antique or dull brass and/or adding a ceiling medallion to give it more of a presence.

  • 17 years ago

    I love your current chandelier and agree that it fits your room. Definitely lower it and add more substantial shades. I think you will be surprised at the difference. Can't hurt to try, right?

  • 17 years ago

    I am in search of a chandelier as well. It's DIFFICULT. I would prefer searching online rather than trolling the local lighting stores. Can anyone suggest online stores??? Thank you!

  • 17 years ago

    Actually the new one I am considering comes in a brass-type finish (forgot to mention that) but there is no picture. I saw the piece with the gold finish (rather than silver) in a local lighting store and it definitely has gold/brass overtones -- not silver.

    I'm going to see if lowering mine closer to the table makes a difference. I agree with everyone that it does fit the room--that's why I got it , of course. I liked it then and still do...except for the proportion and shades... I am stuck when it comes to the shades. I've had several versions of shades in different colors, textures, and decorations but all have looked "off", and because they are clip on, they just don't sit straight. I really don't like the shades but like it even less without them. Hilltop, I have a 3 tier version of it in my foyer--without shades-- and it looks great there. Thanks for all of your honest feedback.

  • 17 years ago

    FYI, I measured the distance between our table & bottom tip of our light fixture and it's around 37". (slightly different type light fixture but a companion to the one you & I have). At our island, the distance is 40". If you have a 3 tier version of it in your foyer, then I'd really recommend staying with the same style & coloring.

    Wanted to mention I love your room. It looks comfy & homey.

  • 17 years ago

    You don't have to use clip on shades for it. You could get the kind that you put on before screwing in the bulb.

    I like the current one better than the other one due to it fitting better with your current furnishings.

  • 17 years ago

    I did find some larger shades that are not clip on and I'm going to try them, but whew, chandelier shades are not cheap! thanks everyone.

  • 17 years ago

    I had the same problem with the clip on looking lopsided then i found some bulbs that have a texture to them and not smooth like most bulbs and with the textured bulbs shades are no longer lopsided

  • 17 years ago

    I love your current chandelier - I'd lower it and change out the shades....it seems in perfect proportion to the table and room.....at least in the picture you have posted. The chandelier you are considering doesn't hold a candle (no pun intended) to your current one.

  • 17 years ago

    I also prefer the current chandelier but other than adding dark shades with the trim like Chijim, very fraannnch and possibly lowering it, I wouldnt change it at all.
    I have a 12 light shiny brass chandelier that my deceased Dad bought for us years ago, and I will not change it. I bought clip on shades for about $75 for the 12 shades. I needed to buy something inexpensive and 12 that matched!

  • 17 years ago

    Another vote for your current chandelier and for trying to lower it first. It is a classic Williamsburg (18th century) style. Your furniture is totally 18th century (and just lovely and warm) in style. As an total 18thC person in my own house, I'm fairly sure the other one you're considering is a modern interpretation of 19th century, possibly Victorian. If it really is too small you could get a larger one at a consignment store very inexpensively. It is unfortunate that people are getting rid of these beautiful beautiful classics that have been around for several centuries and truly will never go out.

    I have several chandeliers like yours, with clip shades, and yes they always look a little crooked. Good idea, I am going to try the ones mentioned by lyfia and you, that don't clip -- had not thought of that. Do you have a link for the ones you found by any chance?

    I love your whole DR, please don't mess it up with a modern pseudo-Victorian chandelier.

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks for all of your feedback. The DR often is the only place in the house that is not a mess (3 kids, 1 dog and 1 cat), so I spend a lot of time hiding there (that's why it has a reading chair...but they find me anyway :)

    Here are the shades that I ordered Bellacor. I think they will help b/c they are also longer than the current ones and sit on the socket (like a regular lampshade) not on the bulb. Now I have to find 4 inches of chain to lower my chandelier. When I searched for chain, it was pretty expensive

    and came in several-foot lots, not by the inch. Happy New Year, all.

    Here is a link that might be useful: chandelier shades--not clip-on

  • 17 years ago

    Did you try changing the color, some of the hammered spray paints or patina kits are pretty neat looking. If you are going to take it down, you have nothing to lose but a few dollars on a can of spray paint. I have a similar situation where I do not like my chandelier and its hung too high. I cant not lower mine and I am assuming you will have the same problem. Unless the person left extra cord up in the box, and usually they do not, you cant just add wire, you would have to have the whole fixture rewired. In which case it is probably less aggravation to just replace it. You will also need to see if the extra chain links were left behind to add length to the chain if there is extra wire up inside the fixture. Good luck. I know from my frustation picking a chandelier is so difficult!