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Question regarding Benjamin Moore whites

14 years ago

Hi! I live on the first floor of a suburban 1929 Tudor, so my blinds are drawn most of the time. So the place isn't dark, but I wouldn't call it "bright." I have nine-foot high ceilings, the floors are medium-dark wood, and my style can best be described as "eclectic" (contemporary mixed with Spanish Revival--lots of inlays). I wanted an all-white apartment, so on the advice of an interior designer friend of mine, I painted all the rooms BM matte Simply White (with BM semigloss Super White trim and BM flat White ceilings, where applicable). The living room has a cave ceiling, so the ceiling and walls have to be all one color.

Anyway, have lived with this for a month, though at times it strikes me as too "white." (The place is still in a bit of a shambles--that's why I have no pics.) Recently I've come across all the gorgeous Daryll Carter (and Daryll Carter-inspired) BM Moonlight White walls/Simply White trim rooms on the Web, and now I'm kicking myself, wondering if I should have gone that route.

I also see a lot of rooms with Cloud White walls, a color similar to Simply White, but again, not as bright.

If it means anything, I should add that I have an archway between my living room and library. So except for the bedroom, which can be closed off, my entire apartment is open.

Do you have an opinion regarding these color schemes? Is one "better" than the other for me? Should I repaint?

Thank you!

Comments (12)

  • 14 years ago

    Thank you, Bee! By bright I meant "not warm," even though Simply White is described as warm. Except for one room, with windows on adjacent walls, all my rooms have windows on one side.

    However, I found this by Maria Killam (even before I read your reply,i in which you mention her. Isn't tht WILD?!):
    http://www.mariakillam.com/2011/03/can-i-paint-my-walls-white-even-if-the-room-is-dark.html

    According to her, in my space "creamier whites" (eg., Moonlight White and Cloud White) would read beigy or dingey--something I definitely don't want.

    But your info proved the point further.

    Thank you so much again!

  • 14 years ago

    You describe your floor as a medium dark wood and I think that might be what you have too give some more consideration to. I live/have lived in older homes for several decades now and I think if you want to be happy with your paint colors, you need to be working with the color of your woodwork/flooring.

    It's difficult to find a color with a high LRV that works with a large expanse of darker woodwork that doesn't come off as cold. I don't even try anymore.

    Older homes don't handle the "contemporary" whites like Simply white very well, IMHO. I painted my back hallway trim Ivory Tusk (walls Nantucket fog, encaustic floor) and it looks like a very bright white. You might want to experiment with darker whites. The darker floors will make them appear more like the whites you are after but they should feel warmer.

  • 14 years ago

    Thank you for that suggestion. The Simply White I have now isn't awful, so I think I'll live with it awhile (especially because I don't have the money nor the want to move out for three days again--I'm not a do-it-yourselfer :) .) If/when I repaint I will look at colors on a particle board with a lamp, as Bee suggested above.

  • 14 years ago

    Take a look at the affinity color Mascarpone. My FAVORITE Ben Moore white.

  • 14 years ago

    I like BM Cotton Balls. To me it is a very simple slightly off white.

  • 14 years ago

    We have BM Cotton Balls on all the trim & white cabs in our house. I don't know why it doesn't get more love. It's a clean, simple white to my eye. Very very close to "simple white" but with a little more glowiness. In my house, anyway.

  • 14 years ago

    Took this pic just now (6 p.m. ET) of my bedroom wall over my doorway. I used a flash but the pic is still dark. I have a crappy, stark overhead light that will be replaced. However, you can still see the differences between the colors.

    Wall: matte Simply White
    Trim: semigloss Super White
    Chips above doorway (from left): Moonlight White, Cloud White, and Decorator's White

    Again, I apologize for the quality of the photo, but I hope it can be of help to people who are also wondering about these colors.

    Here is a link that might be useful:

  • 14 years ago

    I like whites in old houses very much! I painted my MBR BM Simply White about 2 or 3wknds ago. The reason that I'm not loving it is becuase it's not white enough but there are a whole host of factors that I can (and will) address before repainting. I love the Simply White on my trim but not the walls.

    My favorite go to white is SW High Reflectance White but you are going in the opposite direction that I am. I want the brightest white possible.

    In the pic that you posted my favorite is the Decorators White but that may not be what you're looking for. Based on your description of your ideal I'd go w/ the Cloud White. Looks really nice!

  • 14 years ago

    I'll have to try this again in the daylight.

    Here is a link that might be useful:

  • 14 years ago

    Hi, just read your post. Yes, Decorator's White is pretty, but not warm enough for me. Love the Cloud White but rally don't want to redo my whole place again.

    Awaiting new bedroom furniture. I'll compare colors against that, then maybe I'll redo just the bedroom in Cloud White (but leave the trim color). The master bath (which I can see into while lying in bed) and the inside of the bedroom closet are Simply White, but the two colors are so close it shouldn't matter.

    Thank you for your help!

  • 14 years ago

    Ben Moore Mascarpone is my alltime favorite paint. I just bought a couple of extra gallons of it "just in case" I find something else to paint with it! It is just slightly creamy and seems to go with about everything.