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kitchen layout, please review and comment

12 years ago

The kitchen cabinets will most likely be espresso shaker style. With a five piece drawer or slab. What do you think? Thanks.

Comments (13)

  • 12 years ago

    Back wall. I intend the cabinets above fridge, vent and back wall to be a single lift up cabinet.

  • 12 years ago

    Are there cabinets under the "table" that is attached to the island? If not, why not a table instead of attaching it to the island?

  • 12 years ago

    It looks good but maybe do the island as one big rectangle instead of the T shape and on the side wall opposite the sink like the picture below without the upper cabinet might look amazing! you could have your tall pantry cabinets together instead of separated. I wish I had a spot in my home for a buffet like that.

  • 12 years ago

    I thibk island heighr will have a more uniform look. Also, I will see everyone better and the back of the island won't be visible as well.

  • 12 years ago

    My only comments on function is to move the dishwasher to the left of the sink (right now the DW is in the middle of your prep zone) and to make the part of the island opposite the sink 3 feet deep. Having an extra-deep counter somewhere in the kitchen is always so amazingly handy, and two-foot-deep cabinets look somewhat anemic when not against a wall. The layout seems fine otherwise.

    Aesthetically, I have several notes:

    1) Run the cabinets to the ceiling. The space between your cabs and the ceiling is the smallest I've seen, and it doesn't look like a deliberate design choice. Also, this room is somewhat grand - it's large and the molding is tall and the ceilings are tall. Cabs to ceiling just makes more sense with the scale of everything else.

    That's not even taking into account that you get more storage while not slowly collecting dust in top of your cabinets.

    2) You need some more variety in a space this big. All the cabinets are the same, and there are a bazillion of them. All the counters are the same, and there is a lot of that too. All the doors are solid. Every inch of wall spaces is filled with solid cabinets. It's just a very heavy look.

    I would suggest removing one cabinet (the width of one door) from either side of the window - lets the window breathe visually and more light will be able to shine around. Then I would make the double doors on either side of the vent hood glass doors to bounce more light and to be visually light and interesting. I would repeat the glass doors in the section of uppers between the two floor-to-ceiling pantries (when an element is repeated around a room, it makes its more like a natural part of the fabric of the room and a deliberate design choice rather than some random anomaly)(also those cabinets are directly across from the window, so that is a great place for reflective materials), but I would make those glass doors a different size/shape to add some more interest, like this:

    {{!gwi}}

    Then instead of having your seating area attached to the island and made of all the same materials, I'd place a table (an actual piece of furniture of a different color/material from the cabinets) against the back of the island, like the pictures below. I'd pick an oval table and curvy chairs -- you have so many right angles in the kitchen now that some curves would be a nice contrast.




    {{!gwi}}

  • 12 years ago

    Your island shape is too cute by half. The work surface is too small and too far from the range. Islands generally work best when the long side faces the cooking zone. Worst of all, you have seating right there! Get rid of the seating on the range run and straighten up that side.

    Also, move the dishwasher to the other side of the sink. You've got it smack in the middle of the prep zone.

  • 12 years ago

    If you don't flip the dishwasher as suggested, move the microwave to the other end of the island. Microwaves should be as close to the refrigerator as possible. If the dishwasher stays in the same spot, not only will it clobber the prep zone, you will be dealing with emptying the dishwasher while someone is trying to open the microwave door.

    I love the idea of table and chairs rather then the peninsula. Table tops can be used for prep space, too. I think the sofa/table chair picture posted is wonderful. You could also use a banquet in this space to reduce the number to chairs scattered around.

    I liked the idea of beefing up the width of the island. 24" isn't enough room. 30" or even better 36" would work better.

  • 12 years ago

    I think you have received a lot of good input...to that I would add that you should plan on buying stools with backs and possibly arms or real chairs (if height appropriate they may even need footrests). Stools are just uncomfortable! They are featured in most "island" drawings because they take up much less space but you would not really want to have to use them.

  • 12 years ago

    We have padded swivel stools with no backs and really like them. Would we want to eat every meal at the island? No. On the weekend I can spend several hours a day sitting on the backless tool. DH has said if the stools had backs he would never leave the island : )

  • 12 years ago

    Echoing others...

    • Move the DW to the left of the sink - it should not be between the range and the sink - that's your Primary Prep Zone right now. [Even if it wasn't the primary (e.g., if you had a sink in the island), the DW would still be in the way of a secondary prep zone]

    Remove seating in front of the range - for seats there, you need at least a 60" aisle and you don't have that. It's especially important b/c that's the range...but any aisle with seating + appliances or counters should at least be 54" wide. 60" is better and should be the minimum if the aisle contains a range/cooktop/rangetop.
    Fill out the island on the range side with cabinets.


    In addition...

    • Fill out the island on the other side as well and add 16" - 1" for the decorative door/end panel on the cabinets + 15" for seating overhang. If you can't fit that b/c of what might be behind the seats (if a wall, you need 44" behind the seats), then make the counter flush with the end so you still get more work space. If you cannot even fit that, then you might want to rethink your seating on that side - but you could do something similar to what you show right now...you still need 44" b/w the counter edge and a wall (or 54" if an appliance or work counter).

    Once you've filled out the island, add 16" to the end to accommodate seating (1" for the decorative door/end panel on the cabinets + 15" for seating overhang).
    Now that the island is rectangular, you should be able to fit at least 4 seats - 2 on the end (if at least 48" wide) and 2 on the side opposite the range (if the space is at least 48" wide)
    Optional but useful: Add a prep sink on the island on the range side (facing the range).
    If you add a prep sink (again, recommended), move the refrigerator to the wall to the right of the range. This will put the refrigerator closer to the range and the Prep Zone on the island (now your Primary Prep Zone) and reduce zone-crossing b/w the refrigerator and Cooking Zone and refrigerator and Prep Zone. Even if you don't add a sink, moving the refrigerator would still be useful because you can now...
    Add a dish hutch to left of sink & DW for dish storage. This will make putting dishes away very easy as well as locates the dishes so someone setting the table doesn't get in the way of others prepping and cooking - the Dish Storage Zone is outside the Prep & Cooking Zones.
    Add a trash pullout in the island on the end closest to the the cleanup sink. This will place the trash pullout in the Prep Zone and across from the Cooking Zone where it's most used/needed. It also places it near the Cleanup Zone where it's occasionally needed (yes, desirable!).
    Island:

    • Range side of island: 1.5" counter overhang + 18" two-bin trash pullout + 18" (minimum) sink base + 36" drawer base + 1" decorative door/end panel + 15" overhang

      This gives you a 89.5" wide island facing the range.

    Opposite range side of island: It also allows for 2 seats...

  • 11 years ago

    I was just at the house and it turns out that I can't go with the T island anyway, because it's not centered to the window (didn't think about that). Now my island will be, just as many of you suggested, opposite the range. The wall with my sink and window is 186, if I leave 40 inches for walkway brings my island to 58 inches wide max opposite the window and approximately 7 ft opposite the range. I don't think I can fit a refrigerator on the wall with the range, seems too close to each other.

  • 11 years ago

    Buehl thank you so much for that extensive post, I am still studying all your suggestions.

  • 11 years ago

    OP, any chance on an update? My kitchen layout is very similar to yours and would love to know what you went with and how it's working.


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