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Help with Kitchen Island!

15 years ago

We are building a new home. The kitchen area is 13x14. I would like to have an island to seat our family of 5. We are thinking of eliminating the standard kitchen table because our first floor concept is very open and the dining room is right off of the kitchen. We didn't want to have kitchen table chairs, island chairs and dining table chairs because it just seems like too many chairs. Also, the location of the kitchen table would be in front of the sliding doors to the back porch. We envision using the island for breakfasts and lunches and a few dinners. Most dinners would take place in the dining room.

I am just not sure of the island design. It is unlike anything I have ever seen. It measures 11'x6'.

What are your comments/suggestions?

Also, if we do off white wall cabinets, should we match the island or do the island in a mocha wood color?

Thank you!

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Comments (6)

  • 15 years ago

    The island sounds too large for the room size? Our kitchen is 14X20' and the island is 4X7'You want to have plenty of room betweenyour perimeter cabs and your island. Our kitchen is open to the dining room as well, and it functions well. We use both the island and the table for eating. We don't have a separate "formal" dining room or breakfast nook. Could an 8' long island seat 5? Our 7' could seat 4 but it would be tight? What type of countertop will you use? If granite or another solid surface, you will have a seam, so consider that.

  • 15 years ago

    Is the island seating raised seating or is the workspace lowered? Standard counter-height for both work space and seating is 36" off the finished floor.

    Bar-height seating isn't the most comfortable...table & counter height are more comfortable for most people & table height is the most comfortable for young children and older people. (But, children are not "young children" for long...they grow up very, very quickly!)

    What are the aisle widths behind the seats?

    Do you have sufficient seating overhang (15" for counter-height & 12" for bar-height)?

    Do you have at least 24" of linear space for each seat?

    Is the corner used by only one seat (i.e., no overlap of seating on the corners)?

    Do you have a measured layout to post? It's difficult to tell what you have and whether your island will "fit" the space w/o actual measurements.


    Here are the pics you linked to in your original post:

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  • 15 years ago

    Kitchen actually measures 14' to the end of the wall cabinets. Including the sliding door area, 14 x 22 1/2'. Island seating IS raised seating 42" AND the workspace lowered 35 1/2".

    All counters are soapstone.

    27" per each seat with seating for 5.

    Aisle widths are all 4'

    Attached is the first floor layout. The kitchen layout shown in the original floorplan has a corner pantry, which we are removing and placing around the corner off the mud room.

    Here is a link that might be useful: First floor layout

  • 15 years ago

    These are mostly about looks, not problems. Anytime its about looks - its just personal opinion - so keep that in mind. I like the general house plan and wish you well in your build.

    The cabinet to the counter might not work out with full height doors. The reason is that you'd like to be able to stack things on the counter in front of the doors, but then you wouldn't be able to open the doors. Can't stack beside the cabinet because then the doors would open in front of your stack. Typical solution is to lift the cabinet up by placing a drawer (or drawers) underneath. Another thing that might help is doors that wrapped around flush to the sides - like some kinds of entertainment centers.

    Just a warning that you'd need to walk around the dishwasher from the sink to put stuff away. I do that today and for some reason, I find it annoying.

    I'm not sure how I feel about the angled seating area - the rest of what you've drawn isn't modern at all and that's a very strong modern element. Another vote against a raised bar - partly because you might start to resent it the first time you do something that needs volumes of counterspace and partly because I find them very uncomfotable.

    Also not sure about having the island cross in front of the sliding door. Be tempted to have them take the slider out and put in a single all glass door and extend the sink run a little bit - possibly relocating the sink and window a little. There is a practical reason - someone can be doing dishes while another is cooking without worry about interference. The looks reason is that it looks like a remodel cram-in rather than a polished new build.

    The raised/not raised uppers is almost old fashioned now. I can't tell if the corner is right or wrong so, for info when you pull up a corner cabinet, be aware that you need a depth change also - the corner cabinet should be deeper so the crown molding of the side cabinets dead-ends into the corner cabinet body and not into the front or the doors.

    The same type of thing happens at the ref surround with the countertop. If your countertop is going to be the typical 25.5" deep, then you need the ref side panels to be at least that deep.

  • 15 years ago

    You've got two different design aesthetics clashing here. The island is super modern in shape. Linear and sharp. Would be perfect with a slab door in a high gloss finish. It just doesn't look right with a shaker door. The perimeter looks to be more traditional, or Swedish country even. It clashes.

    The fixes for that would depend on which direction you wanted to pull your aesthetic. If you want more traditional, then you're gonna have to introduce some curves into the island instead of angles, or square it off entirely. If you want modern, then eliminate the higgledy piggledy dust traps of the stair step cabinets and focus on straight horizontal lines.

    And, functionally, I'm not really loving the island in front of the glass doors. If you want to do that, then you don't need a full size patio door, You need a window (with more counter space available to you then!) and a door.

  • 15 years ago

    What bmore and LWO wrote.

    I'd definitely go with a one level island but that's my preference. And whatever size you end up with, please make sure that it's not so deep that you can't reach the center of it to wipe it down. A friend has this humongous island (continent!) in her kitchen and she needs to use a squeegee to clean the center of it. This issue never occurred to her when they were building their home and she wishes it had; she would have adjusted her island's size so that it was easier to clean its surface.