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Door Style Q?

14 years ago

Hi all!

For those of you whose kitchen cabinets are "butt doors", can you tell me if they actually meet in the middle, or can you see into the cabinets?

Obviously I'm talking about the kind without center Mullions. I guess they'd also be called "full overlay".

I'm debating about using this style on some cabs I'm building, since inset aren't in the budget at the moment.

Thanks,

Christine

Comments (16)

  • 14 years ago

    You could see into mine a little bit. I have also had cabinets that had a white piece of rubber attached to each door on the inner edge to cover the slight gap.

  • 14 years ago

    Here is a pic from my other house. The cabs are full overlay, one of the cheaper HD brands.


    Here is the only door cabs I have from my current home. This is under the sink. IKEA boxes (frameless cabs):

    I don't see anything peeking through the doors.

  • 14 years ago

    Mine have a slight gap, although I wouldn't say you could really see into them enough to tell what's being stored inside. I might be able to grab a pic later, if that helps.

  • 14 years ago

    I think you can adjust the cabinet door hinges to align them better. Are these new cabinets?

  • 14 years ago

    Sorry, missed the part about building them.

  • 14 years ago

    Mine are full overlay...I can't see anything through the cab doors.

  • 14 years ago

    No gap between the doors of my cabinets, not even on the angled doors or curved cabinets. One of my larger curved cabinets does have a center vertical piece in the face frame so there is some separation between the two doors there. On that cabinet you see a small bit of wood between the two doors.
    .{{!gwi}}

  • 14 years ago

    That's excellent news.
    Plus, you guys have great kitchens!

    I'm working on two different sections of cabinetry. One is a 60" x 90" bank of cabinets in the dining room, and the other is my "tansu" style in the MBR. 16' 10" with the height running at converging verticals. Cool.

    I appreciate it!
    Christine

  • 14 years ago

    If you get real close you can see inside. But otherwise, you wouldn't notice.

  • 14 years ago

    CDFreeman, the kind of cabinets without the center is what I would love to have which I think is called frameless with full overlay doors. Framed cabinets with the center piece can also have full overlay doors. I think even frameless cabinets that are so wide, may have a center piece but the full overlay doors will cover it for that look I love.

  • 14 years ago

    Framed cabinets do not necessarily have the center stile. My framed, full-overlay cabinets do not have center stiles...even the 36" wide sink base is stile-less.

    There is a very tiny gap b/w the doors when there are two doors on the same cabinet...but nowhere near wide enough to see inside the cabinet.

    Framed, partial overlay cabinets will have a center stile for any cabinet with two doors b/c the doors do not butt up against each other...they are separated by a significant amount of space. (Significant meaning so much that with no stile the cabinets would not completely close b/c the doors would not cover the full front opening.)

  • 14 years ago

    Lynn2006, I'm not so sure about the "frameless" designation. Before you buy cabs, I'd head to a showroom and clarify. I know how it is to know the look I wanted, but being without the correct terms, I couldn't get it across. So? I built 'em.

    Only later did I realize I wanted inset doors and drawers. It was the inset part I couldn't figure out because I didn't really "get" the difference. Sounds stupid, but there was a definite epiphany when I saw a dresser and KNEW. Someday I will rework my entire 44.5" linear feet of kitchen cabinets into insets. (That's linear feet of uppers and lowers, but I don't know if that's how you calculate it.)

    As usual, I seriously digress.
    I definitely have face frames on these cabinets. I know I'm doing full overlay (with 1/4" reveal) and want butt doors.

    Butt doors can go on both framed and frameless.

    With all the pics here and all the info about junk not showing thru the cracks? I'm good with the butt doors!

    I'm making a Tansu and have come to the point where I am going to buy a couple of doors rather than make them. Everything up to now has been a single door, max width being 24". Now I am working up to 36" cabs, so I am considering the double doors. The 3612 cabinet I made into a drawer instead of reach in. Brilliance on my part! :)

    Thanks all! And I love the pictures!

  • 14 years ago

    If your cabinets already have face frames, then why don't you put inset doors and drawers in now? The cabinet doesn't need to be modified at all. The cabinet is exactly the same. All you need to change is the size of the doors and the hinges that you use. If you want beaded inset doors, then you would need to add a bead to the face frame, but that is not difficult to do.

  • 14 years ago

    Because this particular bank of cabinets is almost done. It was started before I could figure out what I actually liked, which I've discussed before.

    I'm aware inset doors aren't difficult, as as mentioned, plan to remodel the 39 linear feet of kitchen cabinets + the 60 x 90" into inset at some point in the future.

    The ones I'm discussing here, 16' 10" of cabinets with 3 levels (so x3?) is already made and fitted with a shaker and cottage style. Of all the 21 cabinets, I have only these 4 left to build. I explained where I was in my last post.

  • 14 years ago

    Christine,

    I have not seen anywhere your explanation as to why you cannot have inset doors now, rather than having to wait until later. There is absolutely no remodeling (or modification) of any cabinet required, as long as they have face frames (which you said they do have). You have four cabinets left to build. You build them exactly the same way, whether they are inset or overlay doors. Why make, or buy, doors twice? The only difference in the doors is the size, and the hinges used to install them. Since it appears that you are installing them yourself, there is no monetary difference.

  • 14 years ago

    I don't have the money to buy the materials to replace all the cabinet doors on the other cabinets already finished. Money is a particularly important factor, given the fact I'm legally indigent.

    "Modification" means making doors, which modifies the cabinets to me.

    As I've explained in many posts, I went with the shaker/cottage overlay style because I settled for something when I couldn't explain what I really wanted. Full Overlay gave me the closest thing to the look I couldn't describe. I didn't realize the word was "inset" because everything I looked at for almost 10 years of shopping was an overlay type. Had I known, I would have actually made these doors in this style, but inset.

    It's a little late in the game for me on this particular set of cabinets.

    But everyone here has answered my questions without asking me to invest more $$ than I need to to actually finish a project -- at least to the painting point!

    I hope I've answered your questions.