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A good firespike replacement?

Two and a half years ago I got some 'blue' (magenta) Firespikes. Last winter the frosts got all but the ones along the south wall of the lanai and come March the spikes of magenta opened up. This past winter they almost all made it through with only a little damage. The ones along the south wall of the lanai were sending up their spikes and then... we had that one last freeze come through and demolished all of them. They are already coming back with a vengeance, but after cleaning off all the dead and blackened leaves and stems, I decided that I would replace them. Yes, they're semi-hardy and come back more lush each spring, but it's just too much of a gamble on if I will get to enjoy the blooms, to say nothing of the insects that dine from them. The obvious choice would be to go with red firespike since it blooms in late summer/fall. But I would like to look into some other options that might endure the winter better


I have two stands of firespike. One is in the NW bed. I have not had much hope of seeing that stand bloom due to its location, but it made for a nice 5 ft screen/backdrop for that bed during the summer months. This location not only gets the worst of the winter weather, but it gets lots of sun in the summer when the sun tracks in a more northerly manner. It made for a nice screen that hid my AC unit. Other plants in this bed are a sweet viburnum, a Walter's viburnum (both being more or less 'limbed up'), and some dwarf hollies. This bed also played home to some zinnias and a moonvine last year. The second stand is, as mentioned, along the south wall of the lanai. This are gets morning and afternoon sun during winter, but is shaded by an oak during most of the day. In summer it is in almost full shade from sunrise to about 4pm when it gets some afternoon/evening sun. This bed is a two foot by twenty foot strip and also has Wild Coffee as well as two planters with Ti plants. I am thinking I might add some Bromeliads to this bed this year. In the case of the firespikes, each one was planted centered on one of the verticle posts of the lanai wall, so from summer to freeze, they hid about 6 feet of those posts. I would like to continue this effect and perhaps hide the whole post or at least distract from them. I thought about a shorter clumping bamboo, but I think with three of them, they might end up crowding out the coffee plants. I also thought about bamboo for the NW bed, but I don't think it would mix well with the existing plants.

So there we go, one plant that did well enough in two different locations, but in need of replacing with something hardier. Any suggestions?







Comments (6)

  • 11 years ago

    Michael, I live very close to you, (Clermont) so what grows well in my garden should do well for you also. The plant that comes to mind for me is the yellow cestrum (cestrum aurantiacum). It is cold hardy where we live--down to about 15 degrees or so. Mine still have some flowers now. It blooms pretty much continuously.

    I purchased a few of them some years ago, because I read that they were good hummingbird plants. They do attract hummers, but aren't the best ones one can find. They get big. I think mine are now around 12 to 15 ft. They have been forced to grow upwards by the plants around them.

    Funny you should mention the magenta firespike. I was just sent some cuttings a few days ago. I have the purple and the red. Both are excellent in shade and both attract hummers. Right now the purple is in full bloom. It gets very tall and blooms in late winter and early spring. If we get a hard freeze they won't bloom at all. Thankfully, that hasn't happened for a few years now.

    I'm sure you will get a lot of good suggestions here. I'm really only good for plants that attract hummingbirds and butterflies. The firespikes are excellent plants for both, but especially the hummers.


  • 11 years ago

    I was actually thinking Cestrum 'Orange Peel' before I even read the above post, excellent choice!


    For the bed nearer to the lanai a camellia might be nice (like the weeping peacock variety), or one of the hybrid Michelia/Magnolia (Like Fairy Blush) for some winter color.

  • 11 years ago

    I like the cestrum and will look into that. Thank you for the suggestion and second.

    I am not a big fan of camelias though. I was at Leu Gardens yesterday and many of their camelias were in full bloom and while they were pretty to look at and photograph, they just didn't 'speak to me'. Thank you though.

  • 11 years ago

    Gee, Michael, you visited Leu Gardens and the camellias didn't "speak" to you? Really, though, because of the warm weather most of the camellias there are well past their peak blooming cycle. The big negative for me with camellias is that they are so slow growing. There are many different types, but the ones that I have (maybe 15 or so) grow only inches each year. If they grow six or seven inches in a year that's pretty good for me. Compare that to the Cestrums that will grow over six feet in a year with the right soil and watering combo.

    Camellias bloom in Central Florida at a time when there isn't much else in full bloom. They also will last for centuries in the right conditions (Leu Gardens.) The one thing that they share with the firespikes is that they will bloom profusely in shade--the best for both is light shade in my experience, although they will grow and bloom in almost full shade.


  • 11 years ago

    Hmm, then for a completely different look how about Alocasia "Okinawa"?

    If you're looking at bamboo then Bambusa "Richard Waldron" is a great choice for a smaller area.

    If you like palms, Chamaedorea microspadix grows quickly and gives a bamboo and palm like effect.

    If you like cycads and are willing to spend a bit more then Ceratozamia hildae will fit the bill.

    All of these are hardy in 9a though the Alocasia will get foliage damage from time to time.

    It would help to know more about what "Speaks to you" if you want more suggestions. Maybe a theme?

  • 11 years ago

    It's kind of hard for me to put a finger on just what does catch my eye. I guess the best way to describe it would be 'edge of the woods", which is funny since my yard severely lacks shade. 'Natural' would be another descriptor. I am most definitely NOT into frilly, which I guess is what puts me off of camelias. I only have one rose bush and that is only because it was a house warming gift. I am also keen on tropical. My favorite part of Leu was the tropical waterfall area which led into the native wetland and palm/cycads area. Many of the plants they had there would burn to a crisp in my mostly sunny yard or get hammered in the winter. But I took notes on which ones would work and which ones I 'might' be able to push as the microclimate on the south side continues to develop.

    Alocasias might be a way to go as the thin strip along the lanai leads to my tropical bed, so they could 'set the stage'. The thing that keeps me from doing bamboo there is that the strip is only 2 ft wide, so putting a bamboo at 12" or even 18" would have it very close to my screens. If I had more room to work with, I would expand the strip to 4 ft, but I don't.

    I am also partial to the dea that form follows function. While I do have a few strictly decorative plants, most in my yard serve as a food source in some fashion, whether to wildlife or myself. Shelter is another thing I keep in mind.


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