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Bolero Rose

11 years ago

Hey all so this is my Bolero Rose I bought from Homedepot 3 months back in a 2 gallon pot. It finished blooming when I bought it but I see there after well over. Now there are over 14+ buds that sprung up. What I wanted to know is should I repot to a 4 gallon? Or larger? Also does this exposed part become a problem?




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  • 11 years ago

    Where are you located? It does need a bigger pot. If for nothing else than to get those exposed roots I see in that second photo under some soil! But the size of the pot and how deep you need to plant will depend on your climate.

    Ivan Ferdous thanked seil zone 6b MI
  • 11 years ago

    Seil I'm in zone 5. NYC. Whats weird is I have seen a few other of the same type with exposed roots like this 2x's size of my plant. But I chose this because this had so many new buds coming. It's not root bound but still needs to be repotted? If so I should go up by 2 sizes using potting mix?

  • 11 years ago

    I'd repot it in a bigger pot, or in the ground. Bolero is a lovely rose!

    Ivan Ferdous thanked cadiarose
  • 11 years ago

    Cadiarose I can't do ground because I live in a apartment. On the first floor. So this is all the space I was able to use. The landlord keeps reminding me I have enough :(


  • 11 years ago

    It will not live thru winter in a pot out side. Do you have access to an unheated garage that you can store your roses in. It has basically used up the pots space and pushing up. Sometimes places that supply roses to big box stores don't fuss with the planting. They leave that part to the gardener. For best health the roots should be under soil.

    Boy I wish my Home Depot sold roses like Bolero.

    Ivan Ferdous thanked Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
  • 11 years ago

    Nope no garage. I do plan on bringing them indoors where it will be warm and I have about 6 led 6500k lights for the few plants

  • 11 years ago

    Ahh I see. I guess I can a 10 gallon from now. Then mulch for winter and have it against my apt wall outside. I'm in Queens NYC

  • 11 years ago

    I truly admire your determination to have a rose garden! Very best of luck to you...


    Ivan Ferdous thanked thonotorose
  • 11 years ago

    Lucky you. I'm a bit jealous. Bolero is probably my favorite rose. She smells exqusite, is a blooming machine, she stays small and is very disease resistant in my Massachusetts no spray garden. She went through our long, cold winter without any complaint. I have been looking for her at my local HD in vain. I bought four last year and gave two to a friend. I ordered some as own root roses from RU this year, but she had a very limited supply since they sold so quickly. I will be purchasing more next year.
    Sharon


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  • 11 years ago

    enchantedrosez6 Nice. It's my first one.. I smelled it even with my nose being clogged. It was $15.99 and I was about to by the peony because it was half off and it comes out to $8. But the smell and bloom wowed me. How large does it get? And do you keep them in a container or ground?

  • 11 years ago

    Hi Ivan, these are planted in my zone6 garden. I bought these last year and so far they're about 3x3 so a perfect size for the front of the border. Last year they flowered most of the summer, only taking a brief rest when the temps really soared. I almost passed these by too. They were in rough shape, the blooms were brown and just not very appealing and the bushes were overgrown and very messy looking. They obviously don't get the best of care at HD, which might be a plus in a way since they're probably not spraying for blackspot, powdery mildew or other diseases. I decided to buy them since they were reduced to $19. I'm so glad that I did. I researched Bolero after I bought it and found that it has rave reviews. Mine are already blooming and perfuming my yard with their lovely scent.
    Sharon


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  • 11 years ago

    My Bolero also came from HD. The different stores often get different varieties from one another, as their shipments get delivered on different days. So it's worth visiting a few HDs to see what they might have if you have multiple stores within driving range.

    No new roses are coming in now in my area, but there's still a few goodies to be found besides Knockouts - Mercury Rising, Falling in Love, Cloud 10, Tahitian Treasure are some of the varieties my local stores still have. Bolero sold through fast, though.

    Sorry, I digress. Not trying to be an enabler, or anything, lol...

    Ivan Ferdous thanked cadiarose
  • 11 years ago

    Lol its okay. I actually saw 3 of these and there were 4 othrr different types I've noticed but nothing like the Bolero. I loved the smell of these. Are there any others that's even more fragrant?

  • 11 years ago

    Okay guys so I repotted my Bolero rose bush from 2 Gallon to a 6 gallon pot. I first removed the old potting mix and washed it all off exposing bare roots and some small roots came off. Then I sprayed the roots with water again to make it super clean from old mix and then repotted using Vigoro Potting mix into the 6 gallon with a tablespoon of osmocote. I'm sure Vigoro has it's own fertilizer as well but I still added my own. I need to buy epsom salt as well.. maybe add also dry crushed egg shells later. But here it is. I hope I did the right way to replant. I really hope I didn't kill the plants. Also replanted my Kordana rose from 2"plastic container to 2 gallon container the same way.







  • 11 years ago

    Growing in a pot, skip the epsom salts. Not enough root space to avoid possible poisoning of the plant. Root system looks fantastic, give it as large a pot as you can--with a root system that healthy you don't need epsom salts anyway.


    Ivan Ferdous thanked hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
  • 11 years ago

    Hoovb at the moment I only have this large. I mean would it be too bad for say another 3 months? I mean it did go from 2 gallons to 6 gallons. Reason being I live in a apartment and this out door space might be it for this year until April. I don't know as of yet where I will be moving to.. and if the apartment i'll move into next will even have enough light coming in.. let alone outdoor space. If I get lucky and do have outdoor space for the next I'll plant it in a 15-20 gallon pot. But as of now is this okay?

  • 11 years ago

    So I was watering the plants this morning .. though I watered them in the evening when repotting a small rain came down after I watered but in the morning I noticed the buds were drooping. I watered before sun it and it's been about 2 hours since.. and still some what like that? Is it because of repotting shock? Was it because I cleared out the old mix and did a cleaning to a bare-root? Will the buds bloom? Or worse yet... will they fall off? I'm scared and upset right now.. it I made the right choice. My kordana rose I did the same too but no buds on them it's a tiny plant anyway.. but that seems to be doing fine.



  • 11 years ago



    It's normal for a plant to wilt when all the soil is removed from the roots. You may lose some of the tips or more. Do you have shade or a lawn chair that you can place over the plant to keep sun off until it until it stars to regrow. The next time you repot you might wish to the some of the dirt on the roots. Then place new dirt in the bottom of the new pot slip in the rose. While holding the rose fill the sides in with more dirt. After bare rooting the rose IMO I 'd cut the plant back to conserve moisture until the root and plant can begin to grow again. Misting plant with water several times a day would also help a bit.

    Ivan Ferdous thanked Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
  • 11 years ago

    No other place to put it really. The other parts barely get any light.

  • 11 years ago

    I moved it from direct sunlight to a shaded area. But still seems the same.. I have been misting as much as I can while home and the potting mix is moist.. should I leave the buds as is.. or should I cut it down so it can regain?



  • 11 years ago

    Removing about half the foliage and all the flower buds would probably help it recover. And you could put a plastic bag over it provided it gets no sun at all.

    Next time you transplant, leave the root ball and fill the remaining space with the same or very similar potting mix. When bare-roots are transplanted normally, there is no foliage at all to lose water. The rose grows foliage after it has grown the fine roots needed to supply water.

    Ivan Ferdous thanked michaelg
  • 11 years ago

    No way to save the buds?

  • 11 years ago

    I'm afraid not better to save the rose than the buds. You may lose all of the foliage on the plant from the way it looks. Make sure it doesn't get any direct sun and cut the plant back as soon as possible to conserve moisture. Especially the new tender growth. Rose is severely stressed from removing all of the soil when repotting.

    Ivan Ferdous thanked Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
  • 11 years ago

    Oh and don't worry we have all done things we should not have when started gardening. This well be something you can laugh at down the road when you're a pro. standing your lush garden in the future.

    Ivan Ferdous thanked Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
  • 11 years ago

    Do you think it is possible to get blooms by next month if I were to cut?

  • 11 years ago

    Ivan, you might get blooms this year, maybe not in a month though. I have to cut some of my roses back to the ground in May due to winter kill or damage. One, Folksinger, has already finished its first flush. Compassion Climbing Rose is blooming now after dying back to the crown, and Kordes Sisters Fairytale Rose, also cut back to the crown due to winter cane breakage (and moved too, so double stress), is putting out a nice amount of buds and should be blooming in about 2 weeks. In my limited experience, I found it is very difficult to kill a rose. Keep it in shade, if at all possible, the north side of your house should work, and watered, and most likely Bolero will bounce back just fine.
    Sharon


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  • 11 years ago

    Thank you guys. So I followed your advices and cut back as you all suggested. It was hard to do.. being there were so many buds. Felt really really bad. But here is what I did.. I hope this right.


    Before


    After


  • 11 years ago

    Hope you can find a place to grow them in NYC, it might be easier and cheaper to find a place in NJ.......contact NYC rose club, may be someone there could help you to find a place to grow all those roses.

    Ivan Ferdous thanked summersrhythm_z6a
  • 11 years ago

    But I'm not really sure why I should find a place for them when I am growing them now. And if I do move I'll look accordingly so I can have some space outdoors. Even if it's a small 2x2 space.

  • 11 years ago
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    That looks much better. Now still keep it out of sun if possible until you see new growth starting to form. As least a good week of shady. Then a little more sun each day for a couple of days. Good luck!

  • 11 years ago

    So this is the latest update guys.. more leaves looked dry and dead so I pulled them out and now like this. Away from direct sunlight.. it gets some and I have kept the soil moist. It's been raining for the past few days so no watering maybe just a little misting that's all. Do you think the Bolero will survive? Or Should I give up on it?






  • 11 years ago

    Looks fine. As long as the canes are plump and green it is OK.. Don't overwater, as it can use little water in the absence of leaves. Keep in the shade for a while.

    Ivan Ferdous thanked michaelg
  • 11 years ago
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    I would bury it deeper and put mulch.... and wait 3 weeks before giving up since it's still green. Mist often and maybe deeply water once or twice at the most? I had my plant completely defoliate on me and then get lush again. I'd cut back any brown stems and canes.

    Before ...

    About three or four weeks later.

    Mine was and still is in full sun, but probably best to keep it in shade for a little longer.

    Ivan Ferdous thanked msdorkgirl
  • 11 years ago

    Do you think it's okay right now? As in do you think the canes are plump and green? In a good way?

  • 11 years ago

    Kind of thought it would lose all the leaves. Bolero should come back for you, I would not repot after the stress it went thru. Most likely would kill the poor thing. At some point thou it still is not deep enough in the soil. However since your bringing it in ( no winter exposer) it does not matter. When you plant in the garden someday I would plant it at least up to that small cane on the bottom. Can't wait to see those leaves growing again.

    Ivan Ferdous thanked Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
  • 11 years ago

    I was just wondering what will covering up to that help with? Meaning can't I just add a little bit more soil to that area? As for growing back do you think it will be possible for it to be back by end of July and bloom? I too can't wait. :'( It was so stupid of me to do what I did.

  • 11 years ago

    Yes, add some more soil. Its fine. Give it some time.

    Ivan Ferdous thanked thonotorose
  • 11 years ago

    Add the soil right on top. Do NOT disturb the root areas further.

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  • 11 years ago
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    4 weeks is kind of short ... it might have some buds but probably 6-7 weeks til maybe a substantial bloom since it's a rose with lots of petals (my climate is pretty warm and even with no fluctuating temperature, so roses tend to bloom quicker here and also that particular rose of mine has at most 20 petals and considered a double)

    Don't over water and don't fuss with it, good luck!

    Ivan Ferdous thanked msdorkgirl
  • 11 years ago

    So here the update on the plant. I hope it makes it. So far it's been outside in slight shade and growing leaves. I put it more in the sun but slight shade for the other plants around it.. I see a few wilted leaves (but is watered) maybe because of the intense heat we have been having for the past weeks here in NYC.



  • 11 years ago

    Keep in mind this is a slow grower as roses go. At least it was for me here in Southern California. It is one of those that would rather bloom than grow (which is not a bad thing for a potted rose). You can cut those two brown stems off near the center of the photo. They are dead.


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  • 11 years ago

    The leaves came back.. but I lost the plant due to excessive rain and extreme heat :'( when I pulled the plant out.. all was gone.

  • 11 years ago

    Very kind of you to provide the update. I'm sorry about the rose thou.

    Ivan Ferdous thanked Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
  • 11 years ago

    I'm really upset patty.. it was my first rose I ever bought and couldn't wait for it.. I'm searching for another still :'(

  • 11 years ago

    Ivan I will add something to the great advice you've gotten here. Next time you get a rose, if the roots are exposed like yours were, mound some mulch around that crown to hold moisture in and don't repot until early October or so when temps are not as wicked. You likely get lots of reflected heat from the pavement too.

    Couple of things that worked for me re winter protection---find a pot several sizes larger and put your pot into it. Then insulate the sides of the larger pot by filling with bark mulch. Make sure the rose can drain though. Also you can make a sleeve of burlap, wrap around bush, stuff with pine straw and enclose with some twine.

    I KNOW you will try again because it's obvious how much you cared for Bolero. Best wishes!

    Susan

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  • 11 years ago

    I'm so sorry you lost Bolero. I hope you do find another one because you tried so hard and it breaks my heart too. Its definitely worth trying to find again because its a gorgeous rose. I am going to look on some websites to see who sells it and get back to you so if you want you might could order you another one thru mail order for spring delivery unless you prefer to wait to find another potted rose. Take care, Judy

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  • 11 years ago

    OK I looked it up and it looks like Regans is the only place selling it. It listed Northland Rosarium but they do not have it available. You might could call them and see if they will have it next spring. They ship nice size plants. Regans is only bare root but is a very good place to order from also. Good luck, Judy

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  • 11 years ago

    Odd that this excellent variety should be hard to find. It is disease resistant in my area and yields lots of beautiful, fragrant blooms--if they don't rot in the rain.

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