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Pumping noise when valves open

11 years ago
last modified: 11 years ago

Irrigation consultant says it's an inside the house/plumber problem. Irrigation guy says valves only open and close, so what causes the pumping noise? With brief conversation with my husband, plumber says water hammer, but I'm not so sure. This is not a sound when the system goes off. I am calling another plumber, and trying to figure out how to help find what's been called a needle in a haystack.

I have a sound file, but can't figure out how to upload it

Here is what I've found so far in terms of trouble shooting the problem. I don't understand much of this and could uses some help.

noisy pipes when irrigation system is running

" I would like to break the noise down into 3 different types. One would be when the system is pressurizing or basically there is a lot of noise for few seconds when each zone is starting but then goes away. The second type would be a steady noise during the duration of the time the system is running. The last type would be only when a zone is shutting down and will only last a second or two"

I have the first type with some valves, the second with others.

Thumbing/knocking noise when valves open

" Another sprinkler company suggested replacing our lowest sprinkler heads (since our yard is sloped) with heads that have built-in anti-drain valves, so that leaking water from the heads won't cause the pipes to partially fill with air. We tried this, and we still have the thumping. Has anyone heard of this problem, and a way to solve it? "

This applies in my yard, and I have been told that there is draining water at the end of the cycle, and new valves named something like "rotors" will help. I think current valves are 25 year old rainbirds.

Thumping noise when valve turned on

"note that there is banging when the zone is first opened, and that is not water hammer. It is something of an oscillation you can sometimes see when a system is first opened in the spring, where there is no water in the zone for the supply to 'push' against. When it happens on a recurring basis, you look to make changes. Installing check valves in the heads is one obvious choice nowadays, to keep a zone full of water, so there's something to 'push' against. Throttling down a zone valve flow control is another option. Changing zone valves is another."

I have read the part about if banging when openit's not water hammer. Is that true? I've also read about checking pressure, but I think I've read I might need a professional, and I don't know what most of the rest means. Is there a "for dummies" version, or was that it?

Pumping noise when valves open

"Flow controls should be used like idle screws on engine carburetors. Throttle it down until the flow is affected, then back out half-a turn or so. Wide open is never the best way to run."

Again, is this the "for dummies" version? It's making me realize that I don't think the sound happens when I turn the valve on with the little thingy on the top of the valve. I think it is only when I turn on with the controller. But that is usally when I am in the house. When in the house, everyone in the house can hear it, and the faucets sort of pulse. Can't hear it much from outside.

Several comments in the above links about valves and diaphrams, and flow....is this really a plumber solution?

Comments (4)

  • 11 years ago

    From one of the links;

    • System is making a loud noise when the zones are starting, then the noise goes away until the next station/zone starts or only on specific zones.

    The cause for this is when a zone starts where water has drained out of the sprinkler heads the force of the water flow does not have any resistance and it will cause the pipes to make noise until the zone is under pressure. Also it could be caused by water turbulence in the interior plumbing of the home. Here's an explanation on how that may occur: When a irrigation system is connected to the house it is done by tapping into a water line (usually close to the meter) the tap is usually a Tee type fitting. Well when the irrigation is running it pulls water from both sides of the Tee fitting. We have found that if you place a check valve on the side of the Tee fitting furthest away from the meter so the water flows through the meter then out to the irrigation it will solve majority of problems associated with noisy pipes. By doing this your are preventing the irrigation system from pulling water from your house pipes which is usually the cause of the noise. If the noise is not that bad and only happens on a few zones then you may want to strategically place check valves on the zones that have elevation change to reduce drainage after that station runs.

    • Steady noise during the entire time the system runs, sounds like a thumping noise.

    Your water meter is making the noise and you need to have it replaced. What do I do if the water department says it is not the meter? Tell them you want a new meter or a larger meter, my experience is that if you are hearing a constant noise during the entire time the system is running that it is the meter and take a firm stance to have it replaced.


    I have been told we need a new meter becuase a hot tub was replaced after the meter was installed.


  • 11 years ago

    Problem solved; water pressure was too high.

  • 11 years ago

    Was it too high to the house in general? Did you do something to regulate it?

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Yes, too high in the house. Plumber checked it and turned it down using this thing, which was said to be "frozen", and needed replacing.

    Not sure why it was too high. Husband seems to remember a previous adjustment.

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