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Some information if anyone is interested. (Adenium Hybridizing)

11 years ago

Shortly after getting my first Adeniums I quickly realized I wanted to produce my own seeds so I started by looking up the anatomy of Adenium flowers and then went on to looking up techniques for hand pollination. After watching all the videos I could find and reading all the articles I was still confused with exactly how to do this.

I'm pleased to say at last that I've found many posts by someone that really breaks it down with excellent, clear, close up pictures. Here is the link https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/adenium/A7aQxsCGuiw/o5r0QgsOwBkJ

Not only does the poster do a great job of explaining it all but they are extremely scientific in what they do. Not just pollinating but they took the time to take specific notes to show what crosses produce which flowers. They have posted 600+ articles with pictures in the group found here https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/adenium

Sorry if this is old news but I was really excited to find it.

I feel like I'm finally able to understand this process and I'm going to take my first (slightly educated) attempt at it later this morning.

Comments (19)

  • 11 years ago

    That is wonderful Nicholas and will be useful for me I know.

    This post/article is from David Clulow. One of the best hybridizers of Adenium hybrids to today. He has an excellent tutorial on Grafting also.

    Glad you found something to make your efforts easier. I would like to try it some day.

    Rick

    Nicholas C. thanked rcharles_gw (Canada)
  • 11 years ago

    Nicholas,

    Great information. I had seen this article on hybridizing before and misplaced the website. Thank you so much for bringing it up again. My plants are just getting started blooming and I really want to do some hybridizing.

    Nicholas C. thanked ladylotus
  • 11 years ago
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    Thanks Rick, it's good to know he is a decent source of reliable information.

    ladylotus, I'm glad it will be of use to others as well. I just tried to hand pollinate my adeniums this morning and don't think it went so well. There was very little or no pollen in each of the 4 flowers I tried. Not sure if it's a problem with the plant or bad timing. I'll have to do more research to find out.

  • 11 years ago

    Each time I look at Mr. Ko's flowers, I want more and more.

    Marie

    Nicholas C. thanked Marie Tran
  • 10 years ago

    Very interesting article! I am new to the hobby. I started four seedlings last winter and enjoyed the blooms of one. This seedling however, did not bloom as advertised. (A doubled, pink blossom was expected, a typical A. obesum was observed). I've started three more seedlings this winter. My question is, how often does one find an atypical specimen when growing from seed? i.e. Will I need to grow hundreds of seedlings in the hopes of finding an atypical flower? What I've read here seems to suggest A. Obesum don't grow true to seed, so are all advertised seed variants false advertising?

    Great website! Looking forward to sucking the knowledge out of you all.

    Oh, and will be transplanting all plants into Al's gritty mix as soon as possible. It seems to be the mix I've been looking for. Any recommendations?


  • 10 years ago

    Delonixregia, If you have Al's Gritty mix pulled written down. Good mix.

    I use, but have altered only as some of the ingredients where not readily available here. I use the Coconut chunks/husks instead of Bark. Turface, Poultry Grit #2 (I get it now as Cherry Stone #2) and other ingredients all work well together to make a great growing media.

    Rick

  • 10 years ago

    Many thanks for the links to all those interesting articles. Great reading.


    Frank

  • 10 years ago
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    Delonixregia,

    If the seeds were advertised to produce a specific flower (as opposed to being advertised as having a parent with a particular flower - subtle but different things) it is false advertising, as Adenium's don't flower true to parent from seed in most cases.

    That said, if you choose seeds from parents that have interesting flowers (from reputable breeders), you have a better chance of getting a non-typical flower, even if not identical to parent. And sometimes you may get the parent's flower.

    Daniel

  • 10 years ago

    rcharles_gw, thanks for the mix info. I've got the winter to try and track things down, some alternatives will make things easier.


    rooftopbklyn, that makes sense, otherwise attempting to hybridize would be pointless, wouldn't it. Well, let's hope I have something interesting from my other seedlings. Can you recommend a reputable breeder for seeds? Thanks!


    Mike

  • 10 years ago
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    Wow!!!! Thank you so much for posting, Nicholas. David Clulow (Venezuela) does an excellent job of showing the process with his pictorial.

    I, too, was feeling like I missed something after reading on the topic & watching a barrage of videos. Now I'm certain most of those didn't even know what they were doing ... Oops! Did I say that out loud?

    I'm bumping this up because 'tis the season.

    Thanks again ... All the best to you.

    Nicholas C. thanked Maria Elena (Caribbean - USDA Zone 13a)
  • 10 years ago

    I just can't wait for the 'best of the best' plants I have to bloom! It will probably be next year or the following year for me. I'll still try to practice on my old ones till then.

    Nicholas C. thanked jedobaTX9b
  • 10 years ago

    Does anyone know the criteria for determining what will constitute your male flower (obtain pollen from) vs your female flower (pollination).

    Obviously, the seed pod will grow where the female flower was pollinated and will bear charactetistics of both flowers (& grandparents).

    Nicholas C. thanked Maria Elena (Caribbean - USDA Zone 13a)
  • 10 years ago

    Great information from David Clulow. Are Clulow seeds, hybrid plants, seedlings, etc. for sale in the USA?


    Frank

    Nicholas C. thanked bronxfigs: New York City/7b
  • 10 years ago

    Sadly I still can't get any plants I own to produce seed pods. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I'll figure it out someday.

    Lady, thanks for the kind words, as I mentioned above, I still haven't figured out this whole hand pollination thing yet so I can't be of much assistance :(

    Jeb, I'm looking forward to your blooms as well :)

    Bronx, I haven't found any yet.

  • 10 years ago
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    Frank, I came across the following email: david.clulow@gmail.com ... Also, the following FB page:

    https://m.facebook.com/david.clulow.1?fref=nf 

    It's worth a try. Please let us know how you make out.

    Nicholas, I understand hand pollination success rate is 10-15%, so just keep trying. There are many variables that need to come together for success, not the least of which include a receptive & mature ovary and viable pollen. I've read that some (most?) hybrids are incapable of producing pollen.

    Maria Elena

  • 10 years ago

    Latin Lady....

    Thanks for the information. If I hit pay dirt, I'll let you guys know. Mr C. makes some excellent crosses. If I start growing seeds, I want to start will some good, premium seeds that are worth the time and effort.


    Frank

    7b/NYC

  • 10 years ago
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    Another great pictorial on hand pollination:

    https://adeniumlove.wordpress.com/pollination/

    Nicholas, try some of these methods.

    Nicholas C. thanked Maria Elena (Caribbean - USDA Zone 13a)
  • 10 years ago

    That's a great article. Thank you