Can't help with the rose, but I think the heat pump makes the near-outside colder in winter (pumping heat from the outside air into the house) and hotter in summer (vice versa). But maybe in winter there is waste heat from the machinery running that would compensate.

Waste heat can't compensate. If it did the heat pump would have negative efficiency.

Then maybe it likes the sheltered place near the house or it isn't as tender as some believe.

Lindsey

Have been growing it (own root from Vintage) for about 8-9 years. It was first planted in a Horrible spot (blast furnace sun, no wind protection, lousy soil...you get the idea) - I moved it after a few seasons and potted it up. Reason for potting: for us here, the Tea-Noisettes take forever to establish...don't know why because others close to us don't have this problem - perhaps different micro-climates. After 2 seasons in a pot, I put it in a better spot, trained as a large shrub. It's doing very well. It blooms a lot. The flowers are phenomenally beautiful and have a sweet fragrance that wafts. Love it. If I have understood correctly, you are trying to grow it in Canada?! I have such a different climate, so could not offer any advice.

I purchased it in Canada from Pickering--I'm trying to grow it in VIrginia. Your comment about pots is interesting. I think perhaps I have erred in planting some of my teas and Noisettes when they were too small. I am also intrigued that you grow it as a shrub. I would much prefer to grow all of mine as shrubs including roses like Lamarque and cl. Devoniensis that become quite large. Has anyone else had success growing climbers as shrubs?

Lindsey

Jerome--how good to hear from you! More, please.

lplantagenet--any climber with fairly stiff canes and moderate vigor can be pruned to stand up. I've even seen 'New Dawn' grown as a huge shrub. Just cut the climbing basals back to 3-4' and shorten the laterals to 2-3 leaves after blooming. Keep doing that.

Thank you--will do.

Lindsey

Thanks to all for your kind greetings of welcome. The advice Michaelg gave on keeping certain climbers to large shrub size is exactly what we do here. That being said - though Marechal Niel, Reve d'Or and Lamarque are cooperative in that way, E.Veryat Hermanos has been a real "monster in the basement" kind of plant. Makes me think that the Tea climbers are a different beast from the Tea Noisettes - although (exceptionally) climbing Devoniensis has been a champ about the "shrub treatment".

Some day I might share the E.Veyrat Hermanos story. I will say that the Vintage catalog said that a mature specimen could reach really enormous sizes...like *really enormous*.

That is good news, because I also have Lamarque and Cl. Devoniensis. What about Jaune Desprez? It seems smaller by nature than Lamarque.

Lindsey

I actually do have Juane Desprez...planted where it has kind of gotten lost in the shuffle (overplanting) and I don't know how it's doing.

So great to see your post, Jerome. I know you've been busy with other things, but hopefully you'll look in here once in a while. Regarding E. Veyrat Hermanos, I have never seen another rose, climber or not, take off like this one. It was almost frightening. However, after moving it to another place and cutting it back twice, it refused to do much of anything. Even this one had its limits when it came to maltreatment.....

By way of idle conversation--Niel is pronounced "nyel" in one syllable, as Capt. Dyel de Graville is also. At one time I guessed the name Niel was a variant spelling for Marechal Ney, Napoleon's great general, but it's a different dude. Ney also had a tea rose named for him, but I don't know if it has survived.

The scent of that Jaune Desprez must be intoxicating! This must be how it is ideally meant to grow. I would also like to have the privilege of seeing and smelling Jerome's Marechal Niel. But, failing that, I am happy to know it exists. Still, would love to see a photograph(s) - or a book of them!

The first flush IS intoxicating, monarda -- fills the entire backyard and is, by far, my "wafty-est" rose! To be grown for that reason if none other...